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Originally Posted by Chief
What makes a person a Jew is really whether they consider themselves a Jew (practicing or non-practicing). There is no Jewish race, but there is a community around the world that openly considers itself Jewish and relates to each other and indeed acts accordingly. There are many examples (perhaps not in Lenin's case) where people who aren't particularly Jewish from a blood-line perspective have aligned themselves with this community and their aspirations.
And Wikipedia is a toned down version of the truth, just as they'd say that America has some influence from Jewish people, most people know in reality that Jewish people have a very heavy influence on the USA, from media, to entertainment, to politics. It is also true that some of the biggest mass-murderers in the Soviet regime were also Jewish, such as Kaganovich, who was largely responsible for the Genocide of some 5-10 Million Ukrainians. Personally when you consider the influence Jewish people had in the Soviet Union at the time I believe much of what is accepted as truth about Nazi persecution of Jews was also a load of shit (considering, I believe, all of these claims originated purely from Soviet liberated camps and not US liberated ones).
But anyway I guess that is for another thread and another time. I think we can all just safely establish in this thread that, like in the Soviet Union - indeed moreso, Zionists particularly have alot of influence and power in the United States, thus equalling unshakable support for Israel.
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sorry, Chief, but you are wrong.
1) wrong about influence of Jews in Soviet politics.
If they were influenced, how come Stalin killed them all?
2) wrong about Nazi persecution of the Jews. Have you read Hitler or Himler lately?
You have doubts, they had not.
3) wrong about who is pushing the most USA support of Israel here. It aint' Jews. It's right wing Christians and Mormons (The richest religion in USA, BTW)
Who were the ones who sent volunteers to Israel to fight in 1973 war?
Mormons, that's who.
I am sorry to spank your ass with facts, but..
you are not the first and far from being the last.