Odin

I hate to waste time on what is essentially a worthless debate (I mean you won't convince me and I won't convince you) but I'll bite a bit

1) Stalin killed everyone, even the most influential in his inner circles who were non-Jewish could not escape his purges. He would kill someone, replace him with someone else, than later kill this person. His grip on power was amazing, and possibly the worst modern example of what a dictator can become. Comparable, in mindset and general craziness, only with some of the worst Roman leaders of their time.

2) Hitler and Himmler did indeed hate Jews, and on many circumstances talked in a pretty vulgar manner about them. I do however believe that in order to study history the most effective way of getting the truth is not to evaluate someones speeches or propaganda, but instead to evaluate such things as private meetings (which in Nazi Germany were tracked and saved quite well) and to evaluate orders from people such as Hitler to their Generals, etc. I am still only now starting to really study the topic and actually have quite a few books on the way from various perspectives which I am looking forward to reading. But I'll start with my limited knowledge of what I have already read that has peaked my curiosity on the topic.

I am stretching my memory, but if forced I'll track down the exact document, when it was first suggested early on in the war that Germany should simply kill the Jews in a private meeting between Hitler and his colleagues, Hitler acted in disgust and said it would be dishonourable and un-German to do such. Furthermore, in that meeting Hitler personally signed off and agreed to what became known as the Madagascar Plan, which essentially meant that when Germany conquered Britain they would use Britain's navy to deport Jewish people to Madagascar to setup their own nation. Although this obviously did not happen, it shows I believe that they didn't have a plan when coming into power to simply kill all Jews in Europe. A second example would be that in the mass-shootings carried out by front line SS soldiers on the Eastern-front of Jews, etc was condemned a number of times by Hitler. Whilst these shootings are often directly linked to Hitler in most history books and documentaries, there are numerous orders by Hitler personally in which he orders that these executions must stop immediately.

I am only just now starting to get into and read this topic (WWII in general depth that is), but from what I've read so there is so much propaganda and bullshit surrounding Nazi Germany and Hitler personally that you must work quite hard to uncover things. The more you read the more you understand that whilst Hitler was indeed a ruthless rationalist he was way way above what he portrayed in his speeches. His speeches were pure propaganda, and on a number of occasions he admits it himself privately and by contradicting himself in more in-depth works of his, and whilst as I said he was a ruthless rationalist he wasn't, as he is constantly displayed, a complete blood-sucking lunatic. At present I don't accept the official stories of the Holocaust, though that may change upon reading more, I'll keep an open mind on it. But whilst I can't be fucked really going in to a lot of things I have read so far to me there is huge gaps in the official versions of what occurred, and knowing (correct me if I am wrong) that for instance that all 'death camps' were exclusively located in Soviet occupied territory, and that it is already accepted that they hugely exaggerated the number of dead in Auschwitz (claiming originally 4 million were killed there, now the official number is 1 million) I don't find it a stretch that they lied about a lot more than just that. Anyway, there is too much for me to go into that makes me have my doubts, but when I have read a lot more on the topic I'll reach a complete conclusion about what I believe to be the truth, but from what I have read so far I am certain it will differ (if only in the possible numbers) from the official claims.

3) I'll simply sum up this with

"In 1992, AIPAC president David Steiner had to resign when he was tape recorded boasting about his political influence, saying he had "cut a deal" with the Bush administration to give more aid to Israel. He had arranged for "almost a billion dollars in other goodies," he added and was "negotiating" with the incoming Clinton administration over appointing a pro-Israeli Secretary of State. Steiner also stated AIPAC had "a dozen people in (the Clinton) headquarters. And they are all going to get big jobs."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIPAC

Zionists are indeed, as you said, doing a wonderful job of getting Christian support in the US, but this support is indeed being initiated by Jewish people. And lets be honest, Christians in the US are among the most gullible people on the planet, and it is not surprising they are herding their way into the neo-con/zionist alliance. In a way I admire what they've achieved in the US, and in the manner in which they've done it, but at the same time I have an obvious disdain for the causes and agenda's they push with their power.

Anyway I'll most likely leave it at that. I used to post on a political forum in a few years back and wasted way too much time (although I learnt a lot I guess) actually researching and debating with people who obviously weren't going to change their mind. I'll save my efforts for people who are open to hearing what I have to say ;)