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Originally Posted by Winetalk
good point and you are making point for me-
Jews had ZERO influence in the Soviet Union,
Stalin had ULTIMATE power, thus making talk about "Jewish influence" in USSR is an ABSURD.
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No, the point is they had power and influence so long as they operated in a manner which was acceptable. Do you not seriously think Jewish people did not help push some of the exagerated (and these have been historically accepted as exaggerated) claims about Nazi death camps? Jewish people have never ruled by direct power, it is simply impossible with their numbers, but they are indeed successful and influencial people (just look at the US for that), and their influence was prevelant in the Soviet Union, this is not to say they ran the show.
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Originally Posted by Winetalk
Very good idea and I've done just that:
http://nocomments.com/2/Polan/Auschwitz/
all those photos shot by Nazis, are they fake or Soviet propaganda?
My relatives who died in Aushwitz, are they pigment of my imagination too?
the guy in grey jacket
http://nocomments.com/2/Polan/Auschw...es/image1.html
who saw his relatives rounded up in Krakow where he lived in Jewish ghetto and sent to camps to die,
was he making stories?
(psst...he never lived in Soviet Poland, he escaped to Switzerland at the end of the war) |
Actually that was one of my biggest areas of conflict regarding the death camps. If there are so many eye witnesses, how can it not be true. But if you read you'll see that exactly the same eye witness accounts came out of US occupied concentration camps, only to be quickly rubbished by the American's who tookover the camps. I am not saying noone died, and I am not putting it beyond the realm of possibility that gas chambers existed. Indeed I think that those operating the camps were quite ruthless, particularly towards the end of the war, often killing those who they deemed unfit for work. What I am debating however, is possible the most evil of evil claims, that there was a systematic plan to gas all Jews in Europe. I believe they were used for forced man power, at a time when Germany was absolutely desperate for man power, in a brutal fashion along with the various other groups (such as large numbers of Slavic peoples), and that many who were unfit or unable to do what they were told to were killed, just as happened in the Soviet Gulag's.