Odin

You flatter me

You know what is absolutely amazing about that... I have never even read from an Arab source on the issue. In fact I haven't even really read from a revisionist source if you can believe that. I have read a few revisionist pages and have some books on the way, but most of what I've stated has come about through my own curiosity, and the fact that it matches the Arab version word for word says something in itself I believe. And no, that isn't that I am stupid as the Arabs, it is that perhaps there is at least SOME substance to the claims. Also if you could recommend me some good Arab historians who write about the issue I'd be happy to look into their work.

Actually I have to be honest and say I didn't use Google once when responding to you. I couldn't be bothered wasting the time, and just went off old knowledge, so that isn't my source - although it is quite interesting. Your source confuses me though, it doesn't establish much and at most it references the NY Times anyway *cough* (we won't go into that). On the other hand the other link you provided does state some interesting information which I am going to track down and read, specifically the claims it makes about Dr. Charles Larson who I also found a quick and interesting quote from:

"The majority died of natural diseases of one kind or the another. However, we did probe into such questions as, 'What happened to those prisoners who became psychotic at Dachau? What did the Gestapo do with them?' Well, they took those people to the crematorium. First, however, they were taken to a big windowless building next to the crematorium where the ceiling was covered with false shower heads. The victims were then ordered to strip and take a 'shower.' Outside the building, guards dropped in cyanide pellets. Then they'd blow the cyanide gas out and remove the bodies next door to the crematorium ovens. I think this is what happened to most of the truly psychotic prisoners and those they considered unruly and unmanageable and who, in the Gestapo's opinion, were incorrigibles. But, in my opinion, only relatively few of the inmates I personally examined at Dachau were murdered in this manner. Still, medical facilities were totally inadequate. When people fell hopelessly ill and death was imminent, and when they grew so weak they could no longer work or function, they were taken to the cyanide room for disposal. The Nazi called them 'mercy killings' because there was no hope of them getting well. Actually, the Germans considered them a liability, and extermination was the answer."

For those who are not following "When American and British forces overran western and central Germany in the spring of 1945, they were followed by troops charged with discovering and securing any evidence of German war crimes. Among them was Dr. Charles Larson, one of America's leading forensic pathologists, who was assigned to the US Army's Judge Advocate General's Department. As part of a US War Crimes Investigation Team, Dr. Larson performed autopsies at Dachau and some twenty other German camps, examining on some days more than 100 corpses. After his grim work at Dachau, he was questioned for three days by US Army prosecutors."

Knowing that some revisionist sites (this being my reason for not really using them as sources), as do modern history books, have a tendacy to misquote to reach their conclusion I'll look into this individual more before I seriously considering what he has said however.

It is hugely interesting though that the America's in all the camps they have captured (even in your reference link) refer to starving and diseased inmates not mass-gassing's, and instead ignore a lot of the main claims from prisoners comparing it to 'double-vision' (a term which is new to me although I have studied some of the First World War), a term which originates from the First World War when false propaganda about German atrocities was widely reported. So here we have American liberated camps and Dr's in those camps saying they did not find evidence of mass-gassing (although some inmates made such claims), and than we have Soviet Liberated Camps, what we now infamously know as the Death Camps, claiming systematic gassing's occurred. You must admit it raises some questions doesn't it?

This is the typical propaganda I speak about surrounding WWII. Yes Hitler allied with Muslims, in actuality he was annoyed with the Italians for not allowing him to ally more strongly. He said himself if it was not for the Italian's he could of pursued a 'fantastic' policy with regards to the Muslims who were itching to rise up against the British, but that unfortunately Muslims had a deep mistrust of Italy. I know post-war propaganda makes it hard to believe, but Hitler didn't intend to march his armies across the whole planet and gas anyone non-White. In fact he had disgust for policies such as colonialism for instance, and had great sympathies and indeed care for populations other than the Germans. As he put it (this is a memory based quote) I am certain the more and more the Japanese and Chinese show love for their race and nation the more and more I will like them. On the Muslim front he stated that he was quite certain that the people of Islam would forever be better friends of the German people than the French of British, even though the latter two were related by blood to the German nation. He was a misguided man who certainly had an extreme view of how the world should and would exist, a view which I don't support, however it is a view I can understand given the time and history of Europe at that stage. That is not to say I think what occured was good or just, only that as with various Communist revolutions I can understand the reasons for their coming about.