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Originally Posted by will76
so you are saying popups are "shady" ?
I see nothing wrong with 1 popup. I have made over 100K in the last 3 years off of 1 popup page that is displayed on about 35% of my traffic. I definetly don't see anything wrong with it in my position as an affiliate, i don't own a "website" that I am worried about people coming back to. I advertise ads and i get 1 shot at them, so i make it count.
Even if i owned a membership site (and i have owned several in the past) I would still have 1 pop up on exit. I guarantee that I will gain more in income from sales from my popup page then i will lose from returning customers who wont come back to my site because they got a pop up on their way out. Think about it. These people are leaving your site, pop up or no pop up there is a very good chance you are not going to make a sale from them. Even with a pop up you are not rulling it out either, how many people actually get pissed from 1 pop up. I bet anything the sales you would lose would be nothing compared to what you make from the pop up. I know years back when I started using popups on my membership sites, i would give them a second chance (discounted rate for my site and i had some other affiliates listed there) on my pop up page. Not only did my membership sales go up but i started making affiliate money. So I couldn't have made them too mad if they were signing up to my site off of the popup page.
I am all in favor of not screwing the customer. But I am also here to make money, not be self rightious. I am happy being more ethical then the industry norm, and i am not talking about porn either, the whole online industry, mainstream included. All the shit these people pull, 1 pop up is nothing in comparison, neither is a checked cross sale IMO.
I don't know how any of you can go on and on about trying to not upset the customer if you have rebilling memberships.  lets call a spade a spade. rebilling memberships is 100% worse for the customer then a popup.  |
Well popups are not shady but they are something that people have openly talked about hating and now most use software to block them. If they don't want them then I will not use them to upset my visitors. I think you are wrong about making more money with a popup rather than using a clean site to get return vistors. If you were right every tgp would use one popup. Tgps have learned how to get return visitors and years ago they learned they better not have a popup if they want any hope of getting that visitor to come back. Paysites are the same! Karups, atk, twistys, and for sure my site get people visiting often to see the tour to see what is new at the site. I know this because many visitors to my paysite email me about this. I will not use ANYTHING that a visitor might not like and popups have already proved to be one of the most hated thing on the internet.
I don't doubt you make some money with them because that is all your business is... at least from what I have seen. You try to get people to promote click cash through you and you pay the affiliates a little more so you can add your popups... right? If adding popups to one of the most promoted sites such a great advantage for affiliates since it increases their payouts... then why isn't everyone promoting click cash through you? You convinced a couple hundred (I don't know the active affiliates you have) to use you out of how many? Around hundred thousand? You are over rating popups. They are hated by everyone. You have been able to make a living off of it because you have convinced webmasters who have sites to use more popups to make more money. They are suffering because of upset surfers while you are making more money since you don't have a "web site"
And a checked cross sale not being shady? Ask paycom how many chargebacks/credits they get because of those. When people fill out a billing page MANY don't see that prechecked cross sale and end up paying for something they do not want. What do many of those rebill at? $40? More?
It is unfortunate that many people can't read and miss when they are told 3 or 4 times they are purchasing a rebilling membership. I make it very clear and so does the billing companies in MANY places.