R.Benoit

If you read my post from when I came on to this thread I had pointed out that someone had advertised a Search Engine Optimizations service but did not see it realistic as to set an example of good form by spending just a few minutes to an hour or two as to make there own site SEOed.

I understand everyone has there own methods and thats fine with me however when people talk about Search Engine Optimization but they leave out things like meta tags, descriptions and keywords just for the sake of it and say it does not matter because the effect will be the same... this is a bit too much !!!

Everyone is saying for example that Google does not and has not used such meta tags for a longest time. I know for a fact that Google does use meta tags because I can find my keyword when I type them into Google and other search engines when doing keyword checks on my websites.

I would like to point out that I have tried to prove to myself that Google does not use meta tags; just to have such a powerful tool like Google not pick up relevant words; or that such words were, as you would say, too low in keyword density to really matter any, as to get an exceptable position within the search engines.

The problem I had, when I did not include meta tags etc.., was that my website(s) could not be found period; and as soon as I got it into my head the importance of having keywords and keyword density plus a few more easy things, that the SEO experts would say to do; I found that I had people coming to my websites and had a many top 10 positions within the main search engines that i submitted to.

I keep on getting very good search results with the keywords that I had chosen, and with so many positive search results, such speaks very loud to me !

Not having proper keywords etc.. just made it nearly impossible for anyone to get to my website though the search engines unless of course they typed your actual domain name into the search area and hit enter. This is providing that your website(s) were indexed to begin with.

If you don't define the words you would like others to use, to get to your website, how do you expect people to just come across your website(s) by the search engines?

There are search engines that don't spider your website, but they require you to still enter keywords and a description of your website for their index.

I would like to make it very clear to every webmaster here; if you don't SEO you website and your doing great, then you have some real business skills, ethics and staying power as to please your customers and or business associates, but this does not mean that such success stems from your webpage bringing in the sales, it just means that such webmaster/owners know how to please!!! by word of mouth, back links.. etc... I'm sure you get the idea...

Since a good reputation is everything in online business world; both word of mouth and good links back will make up for some of the websites that are not SEOed, however not everyone is capable of dealing well with others and relay very heavily on the search engines to drive around 80% of all business. { the stats are from a few years back }

My last remark on this post is that I was being very forwards and that It was not me who had started on others first; perhaps it does not matter to some here on this forum, but it takes me some time to reply like this, just to have some shit tell me everything I'm saying is useless because he or she read a book or two or had a website for a hundred years... I would not be suggesting things that I would not do myself so please people If you would like me to treat you all like pros then start showing some basic respect for the time it takes for me to respond to your questions and or remarks, and I will do the same.

Or I can talk cow until of course the cows come home !

Thank you everyone for reading my very long post, ! Such that took me hours,

later everyone,