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Old 09-13-2006, 01:05 PM  
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Originally Posted by Franck
33. How much money did you make with killing affiliate accounts, calling them cheaters but keeping their traffic (and payouts)?
I'll take this question out of turn since a hater was brave enough to post in this thread.

Why do cheaters always refer to themselves as "affiliates"
sending fraudulent traffic or traffic that is not allowed does not make you an affiliate, it makes you a cheater.
In the days when we were kings of adult pay per click, we were light years ahead of other programs when it came to fraud. Mojo actually flew to goto.com (now overture.com for you young ones) offices and gave them a talk on how we detected fraud. It was an eye opener for them and one of the reasons we were able to do big business with them.
Anyway, you'd have these guys beating programs left and right and along we came with our good looks and higher payouts. ALL the cheaters came over for the high payouts. We identified them and pointed their traffic at an identical looking page but with only PPS sponsors so as not to hurt our buyers. We then just let them run the counter up imagining they were getting paid. We saw it as our duty to clean up the industry since we had the ability.
Well, imagine the squealing that went on when these guys were outed as thieves. Here many of them were, pillars of their little online communities, outed for what they really were.

I made many many enemies for that and some of them you still see today (all under new names and swearing they never knew me before last week but badmouthing me all the same)

Then you have people like frank who wanted to collect the highest rates in the industry but didn't want to follow the rules. His argument today is that we changed our rules all the time to create cheaters out of honest webmasters. Its a simple matter to disprove this lie by looking up the programs in the wayback machine and seeing that in the long life of these programs the terms changed maybe, one, twice tops.
We never gave less than a month's notice and the notice was always via email AND on the stats page.

but you know, the franks of the world are always right. There's so much money to be made chasing honest webmasters out of the system.
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