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Originally Posted by sixsax
Agreed. But I don't think the sky is falling in Europe anymore than in the US.
Islam is indeed a sick and obsolete ideology, but I'm under the impression that a lot of muslims migrating to western countries learn to adapt to modern society while keeping only the spiritual (and comforting I suppose) part of their belief.
I mean if most of them are converting into at least semi-independent individuals, we're winning the "war".
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It's interesting what you say. I have had a few Muslim friends here in Australia, but I see the exact opposite of what you say. The younger generation is so caught up in the tribalistic pull of Islam they almost compete with each other as to who is more Islamic. If one of them goes to a club, or a girl kisses them (where a girl advancing on a man is un-Islamic) they insult each other and the guilty party attempts to deny it. It's kind of bizarre to be honest, but I guess that is the pull of religion and tribalism.