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Old 10-03-2006, 04:57 PM  
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Originally Posted by Missie
Will76 I'm glad to see someone with your attitude in this industry. I have been sooooo involved in this fight in the last few years! I repeat myself until I'm blue in the face but I don't care because if only one sponsor/mainstream merchant goes clean again or understands spyware enough to recognize it and get rid of it, it's well worth my time.

Most sponsors I've contacted in the past have told me that they do not allow spyware advertising of their programs yet ALL of them were targeted. Unfortunately, only a handful have something in their TOS to this effect.

Some have taken quick action, others have ignored the problem. For many, it's because they just don't understand what it does and how it works. Others just don't give a shit where the sales come from and won't do a thing about it.

It is up to us to educate them on the problem. Many large companies in mainstream are slowly leaving the adware world to come clean. Who wants their brand associated with computer problems??

But in porn or adult in general, it's a different story. I have never seen so many affiliate managers who just didn't know about this or understand the magnitude of this problem. They won't learn this on their own if they're never told there is a problem with their program.

And doing test sales on a CLEAN computer and saying it tracked and everything is fine is useless! All it proves is that tracking works, that's all. Sponsors that come up with this reasoning make me bang my head against the wall.

Those who promote pay-per-install programs like zangocash need to have their heads examined. Because that 40 cents is all they're ever going to see from that visitor. If you get 30K per day and you infect every one of them, NO ONE will make money with them in the future, including YOU.

CoolWebSearch is another huge one in porn. Just do a quick search on that one and see what it does to a computer...

Do you do banking online? Do you ever use a credit card online?

Most people are just plain ignorant about this stuff. Once they realize that they're also shooting themselves in the foot, the light comes on.

Don't forget that many sponsors/mainstream merchants advertise via spyware as well. Maybe they just think that by stealing affiliate sales it makes the payouts less painful when they do have to pay them.

Missie
Thank you for posting too.

I had no idea this was happening, to this degree until it stared me in the face on my own computer. I had seen spyware in the past pop up random pages some of which were to sponsors i used but never anything as blatant as this.

I know this is affecting my income, if they are stealing even 10% of my income that is 6 figures from me alone they are stealing. I will do everything in my power to protect my income and I am anxiously waiting to hear back from my inhouse council who is investigating this matter from a class action lawsuit standpoint. I would love to make this company pay.

If anyone here reads this and you do nothing you are a fool an obviously you don't care about your income. This is no different then someone walking into your house each day and taking money out of you wallet.

Put pressure on sponsors! report affiliate accounts that they are using.Find people pushing zangocash and knock some sense into them, nothing else bumpthis thread so everyone can educate themselves on this.
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