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funny that no one can admit any political bias in these types of arguments. that in itself makes it pointless. people argue with an agenda... people post these threads with an agenda. its not in spirit of some objective quest for the "truth" whatever it may be and no matter how much it may conflict with their own views or world view.
being liberal or conservative and arguing that your side of a two sided argument is ALWAYS the right side... is the strongest single indicator of the ignorance and pointlessness of the discussion itself.. because no one is discussing or debating for knowledge, truth or enlightenment or anything else... they are discussing and debating with an agenda to defend their own views, belief systems and life perspectives and doing so with a closed mind.
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