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Originally Posted by Chief
I know plenty of Muslims to, nice guys some of them. They know my position on such issues, and I know theirs (and it has been an eyeopener), and whilst we still remain friendly, I certainly disagree very strongly with theirs. That said, everyone is born with alliances and loyalties, and Islam has become one of the biggest tribal loyalties in terms of its draw on individuals. They refuse to accept seperation of religion and State, and whilst they proclaim to support the leftist parties in their host nation of choice, they almost always support the most right-wing Islamist parties back home (whether it is Hezbollah if they are Lebanese, or the current Iranian Islamists, or the Somalian Islamists taking over there). So, if after 2-3 generations their Islamist instincts are even stronger than their parents and grandparents, what does the future look like for a European nation in which they are a majority? Islam is being used a right-wing political idealogy by these individuals, and when the time comes that they can vote and succeed with an Islamic party of their choice in their host nations it won't be pretty.
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Can't say I know many now Chief - maybe 3 or 4, and they are no big deal. They are just part of the community and not sure how much of a Muslim they are now. Never asked, but fairly certain none of em are interested in supporting violence any more than we would.
Flip side, I've lost track of this in the EU/UK - it may be an entirely different story now - and judging from the press, - it has become another friggin "issue" with govts trying to be politically correct and behaving like assholes.
Only my
- if anyone wants to live in whatever country, it's up to them to integrate into that society - and not a matter of bending to accomodate them. If folks don't wish to live in that country - they can move on.