Here is footage of Ted Haggard arguing for with Richard Dawkins in the video "The Root of All Evil: The God Delusion 1 of 2".
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=ted+haggard
Go to time 19:45 in the documentary to see Ted preaching and telling Richard Dawkins how it is...
He gets a bit pissed off so he probably had a nice full body massage afterwards.