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Originally Posted by RayVega
Problem with these lists is that often (just like spamhaus lists) innocent parties are usually attached to the list for associations they cannot help. It also becomes a way for competitors to fuck each other. In the end the lists end up being as shady as the service they are trying to stop...Wegcash is a clear example...
I ran a publicly traded email marketing firm years ago and I cannot count the number of times some asshole would sign up for some service and then report the newsletter, or worse the confirmation email to a spamlist. We had the proof and the bucks to fight it and, get damages sometimes , but a lot of people do not. that's why I stopped using email marketing as a medium and sold off that company. In the end good solid commerce got hurt because of it and that hurts all of us.
Blacklists are as crooked and sloppy about their verification process as the adware or spam is bad for the industry...and they end up making everybody pay.
I have no idea how Zango even works, but All I have to say is, Make sure that list is accurate! I attacked venomously, the people that falsely accused me, and I usually won. I got many written apologies to prove it.
We all need to think out this Zango thing fully before jumping to conclusions...
Just some words of wisdom...
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I agree with what you said and I can't stand independent companies (non regulated) like spamhaus that can shut down someone's business over night. Another one that gets me hot is credit reporting agencies. I've had family members shit on my credit report because of similar names and I am guilty until proven innocent and have to spend fucking weeks jumping through hoops to catch their fucking errors. Years back i had to close on a house and come to find out one of these issues happend and some bogus shit was on my credit and caused my rate to be a little higher. I had to close on the deal couldnt wait weeks/months to clear it up. It cost me thousands in higher interests even from just a .25% increase in the rates.
Believe me if anyone gets burned up about this shit it is me. On the same hand you have asshole companies doing business with Scumware. People are asking for list of sponsors who accept the traffic. I think people should be informed. There has to be a middle ground.
I will be gathering a list of companies and will be putting something together on a web site. Unfortnetly it has to be a judgement call but I will contact the sponsors before adding them for their official position on the scumware matter. I think it will be clear who supports it and who does.
If someone doesn't reply to your emails askign about it and you see them doing itover and over, it is fair to list them.
If someone like AFF fucking admits to it, then it is fair to list them.
If a sponsor says they are against it and they shut the affiliate accounts down, then you have to take their word for it, that they do stop it when reported and they do take it serious.