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RawAlex · 11-17-2006, 07:54 AM

Jayeff, you hit it solidly right on the head.

Zango has already proven that it's methods for obtaining customers in the past (some part of the current 20 million) was not legal, and they have to pay the FTC a fine and are now having to recontact all those customers to explain.

Further, Zango continues to use a pre-checked "I agree to the terms box" and a trigger button marked "PLAY" rather than "INSTALL TOOLBAR", in violation of the same set of Truste rules that they said they would adhere to.

What AFF / Cams don't realize is that Zango is a fair weather friend, and as soon as someone with a bigger check comes down the street, Zango will sell them down the river and the fun will be over.

You are also correct Jayeff, that by popping a console in the sale process, not only do they steal the sale if possible, but they also piss of a large number of people who hate popups and don't buy from the underlying affiliate site either.

What Sagi doesn't get (and Lars I think is just playing dumb on) is that they can take steps protect their intellectual rights, and they don't have to pay Zango a ransom to retain their traffic. Just the idea that you have to pay a company to keep the people going to your domain to be actually going to your domains seems like a slam dunk legal angle. That others have been able to do this without issue, plus Zango is currently in deep shit with the FTC, it would seem pretty easy to resolve. Send a nicely worded letter to to Zango with a CC to the FTC about the issue, and see how quickly your sites are no longer sold on their marketplace.

Lars, you don't want to fix it because in the end, this has been your biggest month, you have made the most money, and that trumps it all. It isn't the affiliates, it's the cash in your pocket. I understand. I just hope everyone else does too.

Nothing that Will does or has done changes AFF/ cam's actions one bit, and nobody should forget that.

11-17-2006, 07:54 AM
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Jayeff, you hit it solidly right on the head. Zango has already proven that it's methods for obtaining customers in the past (some part of the current 20 million) was not legal, and they have to pay the FTC a fine and are now having to recontact all those customers to explain. Further, Zango continues to use a pre-checked "I agree to the terms box" and a trigger button marked "PLAY" rather than "INSTALL TOOLBAR", in violation of the same set of Truste rules that they said they would adhere to. What AFF / Cams don't realize is that Zango is a fair weather friend, and as soon as someone with a bigger check comes down the street, Zango will sell them down the river and the fun will be over. You are also correct Jayeff, that by popping a console in the sale process, not only do they steal the sale if possible, but they also piss of a large number of people who hate popups and don't buy from the underlying affiliate site either. What Sagi doesn't get (and Lars I think is just playing dumb on) is that they can take steps protect their intellectual rights, and they don't have to pay Zango a ransom to retain their traffic. Just the idea that you have to pay a company to keep the people going to your domain to be actually going to your domains seems like a slam dunk legal angle. That others have been able to do this without issue, plus Zango is currently in deep shit with the FTC, it would seem pretty easy to resolve. Send a nicely worded letter to to Zango with a CC to the FTC about the issue, and see how quickly your sites are no longer sold on their marketplace. Lars, you don't want to fix it because in the end, this has been your biggest month, you have made the most money, and that trumps it all. It isn't the affiliates, it's the cash in your pocket. I understand. I just hope everyone else does too. Nothing that Will does or has done changes AFF/ cam's actions one bit, and nobody should forget that.