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will76 · 11-19-2006, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveonCam

Hi Guys/Will,

My name is Sharon and I am the owner of LiveonCam. I just did a Google search for "LiveonCam" and I found this thread. I am a newbie to the online Adult Industry and my site has only been Live for a little over 2 months (after a lot of hard work to even get it to that point).

As I am new to this type of Business, I obviously don't know where to purchase my Traffic from in order to get the best value for money. I therefore have reached an agreement with an apparent "expert" in Traffic Purchasing where he would purchase traffic on my behalf for a commission fee.

Since we went live, I have been becoming increasingly concerned about how this person is actually going about getting traffic to our site. Whilst I am very happy with the amount of constant traffic to our site and the conversions we are getting, there are a number of issues which have caused me to "raise an eyebrow"!

This person has Affiliate Agreements with numerous Dating and Cam sites, including iFriends, Adultfriendfinder, Cams dot com, plus many more.

The first thing that concerned me was when the models would ask customers how they found the LiveonCam site, the response was always "I got a pop-up". When I questioned this person about that, he assured me that he was purchasing "pop-unders" from a very good, legal and ethical source.

Next, I recently found out that when customers would log into the LiveonCam site, they would get a Cams dot com pop-up. When I questioned him about that, he told me he had nothing to do with that and that Cams dot com must be purchasing pop-unders with "LiveonCam" as a keyword!

Whilst I don't know much about this sort of thing, I came to the conclusion that he is possibly purchasing traffic and then bouncing it around through all of the sites he is affiliated with using "pop-ups" or "pop-unders" and then he charges me (and the other sites he has the same Agreement with) for the initial purchase!

I may be wrong but none of this adds up to me. I was in the process of investigating it further and then I found this thread. I don't totally understand everything that has been said and I don't even know what "zango" is, but I will pass it on to my tech support/programmers first thing tomorrow for further investigation.

Whilst at the end of the day, I am getting good traffic and conversions for the amount of money I am spending on traffic, I am honest and ethical and my reputation is everything to me. I hope that this will not in any smear my good reputation and that of my business. Please be assured that I will get to the bottom of this and if LiveonCam is in anyway unknowingly involved in this type of practice, we will certainly cease doing so.

As I am a Newbie, any advice as to wether you think I am on the right track or not would be much appreciated.

I appreciate your reply and explanation. Most companies either ignore the issue or laugh at us. You seem to be honest, and it goes a long way that you have posted here explaining your situation.

Zango markets itself as adware although a lot of people who have it installed does not know how it got on their pc. The way zango works, they target url and keywords. The person you are using to promote your site is likely just a broker who has an account set up with zango. All he is doing is buying traffic from zango and selling it to you (basically).
He is likely targeting other cam site urls which is how I would have come across your site. When someone with zango goes to my site and clicks a link to say ifriends.com, if you targeted ifriends, then your page will popup over my ifriends page. My traffic I paid for, my bandwidth, I sell my traffic and get them to click my signup link, when they do so your page pops up on top of mine via zango. My surfer likely thinks your page is mine and is the site I was sending them to. My traffic is stolen as well as my sales.

Zango just settled with the FTC for 3million dollars. They have a very shaddy past and both surfers and webmasters (adult and mainstream) are very pissed off with what they are doing. We are waiting for the laws to catch up or someone to finally sue them.

Google " zango" and you will get a lot of information on them. Not a company that any reputable company wants to do business with.