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ronaldo · 12-17-2006, 02:50 PM

It's easy to pass judgement on other people. It's much more difficult to pass judgement on yourself, AND be honest about it.

While I believe that you're attempting to pass judgement on yourself Donny for your "past life", I'm not sure you're being totally honest with yourself. You're taking responsibility for these women's lost opportunities, and that's noble, but I believe misguided.

The problem here isn't that YOU took the photos, OR that the women posed naked. The problem is with those in authority who are able to mandate their own moral judgements and insist that everyone live by those rules or be punished for not doing so. If they don't find it acceptable for themselves or their children, fine. Teach them that. But to FORCE that belief or choice on others through mandating is simply wrong and WILL one day be challenged and defeated. Hopefully it's in my lifetime. I hazard to guess that religious types wouldn't appreciate an athiest in charge of any organization believing it immoral for it's employees or students to attend church and subsequently punishing them for doing so. That wouldn't get too far without a lawsuit of some kind. Yet those same religious types who would scream for THEIR rights in regards to freedom of religion or freedom of choice have absolutely no problem infringing on everyone else's rights by telling us what we're allowed or not allowed to do according to their own moral agenda...not even something that's against the law.

And I'm sorry Donny, but whether you choose to believe it or not this IS in fact a religious argument. I don't begrudge you or anyone else the right to believe in god or whatever you choose to, but at least be honest about it and admit that their views are, in many cases, skewed at best for very self serving purposes.

An article you may find interesting if you haven't seen it...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/12/13/bak...ary/index.html

A couple more that should be pretty scary to non-religious types...

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/19/ma...rssnyt&emc=rss

""Our football program can't change the culture," Falwell said. "Our debate program can, by producing advocates who know how to argue for Judeo-Christian ethics and the American Constitution. We have 32 kids on our team this year, and they'll all be lawyers or leaders of some sort. Our goal is to create an army of people who know how to make our case."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1419302.shtml

"These young people, for the rest of their lives, will be God's spokespersons," Falwell says.

12-17-2006, 02:50 PM
ronaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ICQ#: 272000271 Posts: 5,475	It's easy to pass judgement on other people. It's much more difficult to pass judgement on yourself, AND be honest about it. While I believe that you're attempting to pass judgement on yourself Donny for your "past life", I'm not sure you're being totally honest with yourself. You're taking responsibility for these women's lost opportunities, and that's noble, but I believe misguided. The problem here isn't that YOU took the photos, OR that the women posed naked. The problem is with those in authority who are able to mandate their own moral judgements and insist that everyone live by those rules or be punished for not doing so. If they don't find it acceptable for themselves or their children, fine. Teach them that. But to FORCE that belief or choice on others through mandating is simply wrong and WILL one day be challenged and defeated. Hopefully it's in my lifetime. I hazard to guess that religious types wouldn't appreciate an athiest in charge of any organization believing it immoral for it's employees or students to attend church and subsequently punishing them for doing so. That wouldn't get too far without a lawsuit of some kind. Yet those same religious types who would scream for THEIR rights in regards to freedom of religion or freedom of choice have absolutely no problem infringing on everyone else's rights by telling us what we're allowed or not allowed to do according to their own moral agenda...not even something that's against the law. And I'm sorry Donny, but whether you choose to believe it or not this IS in fact a religious argument. I don't begrudge you or anyone else the right to believe in god or whatever you choose to, but at least be honest about it and admit that their views are, in many cases, skewed at best for very self serving purposes. An article you may find interesting if you haven't seen it... http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/12/13/bak...ary/index.html A couple more that should be pretty scary to non-religious types... http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/19/ma...rssnyt&emc=rss ""Our football program can't change the culture," Falwell said. "Our debate program can, by producing advocates who know how to argue for Judeo-Christian ethics and the American Constitution. We have 32 kids on our team this year, and they'll all be lawyers or leaders of some sort. Our goal is to create an army of people who know how to make our case." http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1419302.shtml "These young people, for the rest of their lives, will be God's spokespersons," Falwell says. Last edited by ronaldo; 12-17-2006 at 02:51 PM..