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Old 03-06-2007, 10:53 PM  
Lev
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Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
You seem to be implying that islamism and nationalism in Turkey are somehow linked.

In fact, however, modern-day Turkey was founded upon a combination of nationalism and secularism. The military, which has long held an exceedingly important political position in Turkey, has always tried to defend these two things - often by questionable means. Only recently, Turkey has become more democratic, which has ironically increased the power of Turkish Islamists. Many Turkish nationalists, including the military, still vehemently oppose the Islamisation of the state. And make no mistake about it - the Turkish nationalist/secular faction is quite radical in its rejection of Islamism. For example, to this day, women are banned from wearing headscarves as a symbol of Islam in public office and in universities.

Just recently, the Dutch Queen visited Turkey, and extended an invitation for a concert to the (secular/nationalist) Turkish president. He declined, most likely because there would be women wearing headscarves attending the event as well - like the (islamist) prime minister's wife.

The two movements which you seemed to link together are in fact strongly opposed to eachother
Common man, do you actually believe your fairy tales, the Erdogan government is a puppet, they make it sound that Turkey is secular on the surface, while deep rooted nationalism thrives in the country. By nationalism, I don't mean hardcore Islamic views, I mean the "Pan-turkic" ideology, where Turkey stretches from Europe to Asia and only Turks live in it. These are hardcore views and ideologies that is threatening to engulf Turkey into deeper extreemism. I, mean look at the penal code 301, which basically will put you in jail if you insult Turkey or "Turkishness". How do you think Hrant Dink died, was it because of one secluded incident? There is much more you don't know.
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