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Old 03-10-2007, 05:29 PM  
GigoloMason
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Originally Posted by the indigo View Post
It all comes down to the cashdown/leverage.
We don't have 12-18% interest rates anymore...

Maybe it applys with a 10% cashdown, but otherwise it's not a valid argument. The only personal amount you need to consider is the cashdown. Everything else is backed up by the bank. It's not even your money.

Let's say you buy a $200k unit with 25% deposit. (I always put 30-35%)

Investment = $50k
Mortgage = $150k
Unit Value = $200k

Mortgage is 6% per year.
Inflation is 2% per year.
Appreciation is 8% per year.

First year, you pay 6% + 2% inflation interests on the $150k = $12k
First year, appreciation is 8% on the $200k = $16k

There you have a $4k profit before other expenses. That is $4k on the initial $50k (8%). You should be able to break even after paying taxes, insurance, etc.

That is great for the first year. No win, no loss.

In 10 years, the mortgage will be lower and the unit value will be higher. The same 6% - 8% rates will apply but in the profit zone.

Mortgage = $120k
Unit Value = $420k

11th Year, you pay 6% + 2% inflation interests on the $120k = $9.6k
11th Year, appreciation is 8% on the $420k = $33.6k

$24k profit before other expenses.

And the taxman won't charge you anything on profit when you sell.

Apparently, you missed the disclaimer that I was trying to simplify the example. Apparently you also missed the part where I said the only ADVANTAGE of buying vs renting is taking advantage of leverage. The assumption that you sheep keep making is that real estate always appreciates (more specifically appreciates at a rate greater than your interest rate). Apparently that's to much to wrap your head around.

Sure if we're all just going to make up numbers we can come up with examples that show one is better than the other both ways. I never said real estate is ALWAYS a bad choice relative to renting, I said the idea that it's ALWAYS better than renting is fucking retarded as it tends to go either depending on the region you live in.
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