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Old 05-17-2007, 10:05 PM  
cj_purve
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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays View Post
1) EVERYONE here knows its common practice that the webmaster owns the psd... and is going to constantly modify/change it

2) EVERYONE knows that mainstream idiots are suckers that can't wait to get ripped off by designers, consultants, shitty software packages etc all sold for 10 times or more what its worth.

3) EVERYONE knows that the favorite scam of mainstream design is to own the psds so the customer has to come back to them and pay them like a total fucking moron 50.00-100.00/hr to make any ridiculous change... not to mention having to wait.

4) just like with your websites/members, you often exhibit this weird contempt for your customers.

5) customers are speaking. why argue with them? He's 100% right. everyone HATES paying for work and getting a psd with endless layers that aren't used, that are unorganized, no fonts etc.
Read Harvey's post ... he makes the point pretty well. & maybe you won't dismiss his opinion because of a predisposed negative view.

Adult clients want a week's worth of work for the price of a carton of milk and expect to then be able to take the designers work and pass it onto other designers to work from. I will not give a client a psd if I have any idea that they might take it to an outsource firm, not because I want to charge them for updates but because why should another designer get the path to how I came up with a design & then sell it onto their other clients?

Yeah there's the creative ego side of it, but there's also a need to protect our concepts to a certain extent or we'd be doing our service for free.

I agree with you about needing the psd if you are someone who can make promo tools, updates etc without going back & paying high rates for it each time which is why I provide psd's if asked, but do you understand Harvey's point about the legal ownership of fonts used? This is why some designers rasterize text ... its not necessarily a case of a crap designer as it is a case of you not owning the license to use that font outside of the design provided.
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