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Esbee · 05-18-2007, 12:00 AM

I'd certainly give PSDs to a tour upon request. Conditions change and the ability to alter a tour only seems fair. Highly doubt I'd give it for a gallery job however (though I'd make that clear in advance). Too likely one job would be converted into exponential pseudo-versions of the same work. I've seen plenty of content providers terms that stipulate heavily restricted usage. Don't see why designs should be too different, aside from it being virtually impossible to enforce after turning over PSD files.

There's really no relation between adult and mainstream though. I merely follow adult via this board (borderline useful, but always entertaining), chiming in now and then but mostly watching as adult is generally a step ahead of the rest of the internet (though far less so nowadays). The difference between the two is staggering though.

It's the galleries that most amaze me... a piece of promotional material likely to see far upwards of 500K pageviews in it's lifespan - in a saturated, ungodly competitive market no less - and programs are spending $25 to have a piece of shit 30-minute job done. I'd log $150-$300 worth of billable time before I even clicked the Photoshop icon for something of that nature, hence my complete and utter failure in the adult realm. Or perhaps the failure is due to lack of skill. Don't know, don't care I guess.

There's really very little talent displayed in adult design, mostly it's curvy shapes with gradiated background coupled with a faded pixel-pattern on top, with useless text that'll never be read coating 75% of open space. It's not the fault of the adult design community though. What I've yet to figure out is if the god awful promo stems from naivete on the part of the programs themselves, or rather the program's need to convince a naive affiliate community that the bloated tour is a "sick ass" design that's sure to sell, despite the fact said design is the 2000th resurrection of the same, tired look.

05-18-2007, 12:00 AM
Esbee Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Northern CA Posts: 109	I'd certainly give PSDs to a tour upon request. Conditions change and the ability to alter a tour only seems fair. Highly doubt I'd give it for a gallery job however (though I'd make that clear in advance). Too likely one job would be converted into exponential pseudo-versions of the same work. I've seen plenty of content providers terms that stipulate heavily restricted usage. Don't see why designs should be too different, aside from it being virtually impossible to enforce after turning over PSD files. There's really no relation between adult and mainstream though. I merely follow adult via this board (borderline useful, but always entertaining), chiming in now and then but mostly watching as adult is generally a step ahead of the rest of the internet (though far less so nowadays). The difference between the two is staggering though. It's the galleries that most amaze me... a piece of promotional material likely to see far upwards of 500K pageviews in it's lifespan - in a saturated, ungodly competitive market no less - and programs are spending $25 to have a piece of shit 30-minute job done. I'd log $150-$300 worth of billable time before I even clicked the Photoshop icon for something of that nature, hence my complete and utter failure in the adult realm. Or perhaps the failure is due to lack of skill. Don't know, don't care I guess. There's really very little talent displayed in adult design, mostly it's curvy shapes with gradiated background coupled with a faded pixel-pattern on top, with useless text that'll never be read coating 75% of open space. It's not the fault of the adult design community though. What I've yet to figure out is if the god awful promo stems from naivete on the part of the programs themselves, or rather the program's need to convince a naive affiliate community that the bloated tour is a "sick ass" design that's sure to sell, despite the fact said design is the 2000th resurrection of the same, tired look.