Actually looks like we ARE closer to being on the same page, except for one thing and I will answer your questions. I too love a great debate as well, especially in these types of matters...
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BTW I didn't say you were closed minded.. I said your thoughts were close.... different meaning.. you may have misread.
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Yeah I misread that, sorry.
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Ok.. lets use your scenario to prove my point. Law enforcement. You want it.. it's you... it makes you tick. You won't be complete without it.... so in jr high and high school.. these are your plans. nothing can stop you right? Are you telling me, that perhaps when you are 16, you get pulled over.. a cop treats you like shit.... pisses you off so bad that you never want anything to do with it again.. that doesn't affect you?
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Of course it affects me and would become the turning point or life event/experience that sets me off on my course to becoming something else. And yes that person DID influence me but because of that event I move on towards my true self. I reference this above as well.
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OK.. now let me change time. I stop the cop from affecting you. I wait until you are in college. I fix your grades in college so instead of an A you get a D in forensics. Devastates you. You drop it altogether. NO?? not enough yet?
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If I flunk out and never try again, moving on to what I might consider bigger and brighter horizons, this is in direct correlation to my disposition towards life. I was obviously never meant to enter Law Enforcement and therefore moved on towards my true self. Again.
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Even worse.... You are married... driving home one night. I am a cop... driving drunk, crash into you.. kill your wife (god forbid... just an example here)... when it comes to trial.. not only do I not get punished, i get an insurance settlement as well (cops know people right?)... you say fuck the world, to hell with police work.. I wanna be a lawyer!!!
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Now THIS type of event is a deal breaker. I mentioned above about catacylsmic events? You nailed it right on. This is one such event that would truly have the potential for your future to become unknown or changed. It flys directly in the face of any life experience you have had up to that date and could possibly nullify them all creating a truly NEW direction and future outcomes.
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Life is fluid. A choice is not set in stone for that moment. We can choose path A or path B... or C,D E etc.. if they are available... and life goes on. We are all affected by what everyone else does also. Yes I am who I am not only because of my choices, but because of thousands of other people and what they do as well. My life is affected because the terrorists hit buildings in New York even though I live in Phoenix. They don't like America because of the choices you and I and millions of other westerners make. The debate could go on.. but yes, we all do affect each other.. and yes, our choices are open.. not fixed. If my choices were fixed and I had no other options.. it would be a very boring life indeed.
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I agree with you on this point whole heartedly and goes with what I was saying about life experiences eventually shaping us till the day we fall off this mortal coil. BUT, you knew there had to be a but and this leads back to our discussion of the Heroes plot. When we got a glimpse into the future and we got to see what effects the explosion caused, it was only 5 years into the future. So odds are, and this is definitely not an impossiblity, some of those characters we saw from the future could very well still follow the same path and end up in the same situations. The only difference is the explosion DIDNT happen. Do you not believe that this could be a possibility?
BTW, you should hit me up on ICQ, I study and like to debate this type of thing all the time, and there seems so few people interested in these types of things. 65-192-007