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Old 07-15-2007, 08:19 PM  
pocketkangaroo
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Originally Posted by Scootermuze View Post
Nor am I arguing with you.. I enjoy mature debate..

and as for me grabbing stuff of of a website... I'm just giving you the laws from title 26.. from Cornell U. actually..
and I can dig up supreme court rulings in favor of defendants... but I'm refering to actual law with this stuff..

and again..
6011 says, "any person made liable for any tax...." I showed you the law that states who is liable....
6012 says, "Every individual having for the taxable year gross income..."
A requirement for those who are liable..

It's all about foreign income... Now I'm talking about personal taxes.. not business tax as that does fall under laws that specifically state taxes are required as a right to do business.. Excise taxes and the like.. which is what the 16th amendment was about..

But you won't find any law that specifically states that an individual is required by that law to pay taxes on wages from U.S. sources.. as this is, or is supposed to be protected by the 1st amendment which supercedes any amendment unless repealed.

If you'll think about it... If there was such a law, there wouldn't be near as much controversy over the laws pertaining to 'income tax' .. and this has been going on for years where courts decide in different ways how it's supposed to be a law.. Some win.. some lose..

Why do you think all of the wording is so grey and confusing when it doesn't have to be..

And.. the site I referred you to is offering 10,000 bucks if you can show them an actual requirement law...

So I guess we can shake hands and just agree to disagree..
I understand what you're saying and I'm sure many people agree with that interpretation of the law. I'm just saying that until a judge says otherwise, the way we have it now is law.

And I'm not for our tax system, I hate it. I pay way too much while a huge percent of the population pays nothing. Money is stolen from me for Social Security and other services I'll never use or get back in value. But sites and movies like that don't do any good for the cause of less taxes or fairer taxes. It just fills heads telling people that they don't have to pay taxes when they do. I think the efforts of people like that would be better spent fixing the problems we have with our tax system instead of trying to find loopholes and bringing up issues that were settled by the courts many times.
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