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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net
lol.. youre still missing the point... Can you dipsute his assertion that the IPCC isnt has objective, independent and intellectually honest has it claims to be.. and therefore, there consensus claim is bogus?
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Ehm, it doesn't claim to be entirely independent. It is quite open about the fact that there is also governmental review. Still, there are thousands of scientists working on it, who both compose and review the reports, based on the consensus in scientific journals. That means that governments can't just add unsupported claims (although they can, to a certain extent, censor conclusions that are particularly damaging to specific governments).
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Really? How would they do that? With a bullhorn? Or you think the mainstream media would be all over it?
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Ehm, yes? Scientists who dispute the claims get heaps of media attention, and show up time and time again. Just Google "Lindzen" and see the hundreds of thousands of hits you get. Hell, the Financial Times published the Vaclav Klaus dreg.
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Heres an uncomplete list of those who disagree... I dont see Tim Ball being listed there...
Heres an aricle of his..
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/...ming020507.htm
Be reminded also that those who produce work backing the theory of man made global warming receive grants... and those who denounce that theory are called fringe and nuts..
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Ehm, those who denounce the theory get grants as well - check the other thread I linked to in my first post in this thread.
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established scientific organizations... haha What makes an organization more credible than individuals? Thats like saying, thats not true because no established News organization said so.. Those "established scientific organizations" are funded by who you think? Do a bit of research..
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Organizations are composed of individuals. Obviously, an organization that represents several thousands of scientists carries slightly more weight than a single individual.
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Yeah.. youre right.. no such thing.. money doesnt rule the world.. corruption is only the thing of Republicans...
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This would be a conspiracy of hundreds of thousands of people, a conspiracy including thousands of eminent scientists. Surely the rational first thought is that they, most likely, actually believe what they're saying?