Heres my experience of Thunder-ball, whether its relevant or not, its fact.Also what id imagine a common average reflection. Now as for tools and links I use Kaktusans Link Organiser as its the best thing out there for knowing all about your trades and definately the best deterrent to shady bastards who from the moment they connect with you have no intentions but to steal your traffic,that said when I found thunder-ball I found it to be similar in its ways but rather than wait for "honest" people to use your form TBN kinda gave you the "honest " people in a big crowd for the taking/dealing efficiently and at what turns out to be.. the quickest "honest" link collecting I am yet to find in the business.I assume Mr Bond intended on a place to be like a meeting of like minds who have like us all..been cheated once or twice by cheeky naive bastards.So I got the hang of how it works with some help from Mr Bond because like he says hes there to help,even if it is with the odd "FUCK" in his communication...(which I think I can forgive swearing as i dont throw stones in this glass house) and built up a good flow of "honest" links with "honest" people from the huge selection of well categorized trades on offer. Now regarding the shitlist..well ive had reservations on how accurately reflective it is of a person,as we all know thereare those out there who will shitlist you or post you in a forum for petulant things such as choosing to not work with them or agree with them even, hence im shitlisted 4 times myself ...lol.. the price of an opinion it seems. But I also have like 50 people in TBN who do work with me who know better..which is when the balance/ratio of the shitlist system becomes apparent. When i went to view the banned list it was interesting to see the names. Id say half of them didnt suprise me as they were the type you skipped when choosing from the menu,there was also 2 names on there I trade with and have had no problems in links or communications with personally, plus another 2 names I trade with who I was reserving judgement on for the following reasons...1 because he hadnt replied to my mails regarding problems verifying a link (dont we all hate no reply mails in this biz) and 2nd because out of 50 people she was the only one that refused to be added as a friend,struck me as odd as I thought the system was set up for this myself hence the whole TBN Profile thing. And now we have a huge thread of these 2 people debating with Mr Bond Rules that alledgedly have been broken. Certainly getting a bit heated

.....I could of got 20 hardlinks at TBN in the time ive spent reading this .....to conclude id say Kaktusans LO kicks ass but Mr Bonds TBN is pretty "FUCKING" good
