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hahaha i love how people group programmers or designers in a bunch.
these people are most likely not pros if you are getting them off of rent a coder, then when you want a professional job and you dont get it you complain.
anyone trying to save a few hundred and gets fucked might just deserve it because you help flood the industry with a bunch of cheap wannabes.
same goes for people using outsourced companies then complain.
as stated before u get what you pay for. and only an idiot groups people like that, these people are not real programmers or on another note designers.
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