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Some of you bitching about programmers need to look at yourselves too. Lets face it this industry is not about forking over money to programmers and designers. Everyone wants shit cheap, with that you get shitty and shotty work. Maybe if more people wanted to pay what most good programmers would get $30-80 an hour, then you wouldn't have so many problems finding programmers.
I have been a programmer in this business for years and have done many projects and wrote content management systems etc. Fighting for a nickle and working twice as hard as you should for nothing isn't fun. Those of us who are good programmers and have a good skillset are gainfully employed by companies who recognize our worth.
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