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RawAlex · 09-24-2007, 09:08 AM

Gideon, all the links you have provided is for cases in progress or threats to sue (similar to what your bumbuddies at TPB are doing now), and nothing that shows completed, judged cases.

MPAA and others I know are considering the Canadian judgement very carefully. One of the options open to them is to ask that these sites be null routed outside of Canada, or asking the Canadian courts to rule that these sites much has geo restrictions on them. Remember, people outside of Canada don't pay that tax that goes to the artists in question. Again, nothing has clearly shown ISOHunt's involvement in any of these cases, nor have you posted anything that says "ISOHunt cleared by courts, now 100% legal" - because apparently you can't.

The fair uses you site are narrow. There is no way for the courts to know if you have paid for cable (or sat), so the exemption isn't there in it's totality. There is no way to know if you pay for the channels that the material came from. If you are downloading a chopped up commercial free version of the show, you are not downloading it in the manner that you would have recorded it off the air, depriving the stations that originally broadcast it the potential ad revenue. I know, you aren't a neilson family - but if enough neilson families start doing it, life will go to shit.

You do understand that for cable channels in the US, neilson is now providing ratings by the second that show how many people actually watch the commercials, and the rates of those commercials are set by the number of viewers DURING THE COMMERCIAL PERIODS. This was done because the teenagers like you have the attention spans of fleas on crack, and every time a commercial comes on you start channel surfing like mad. MTV has shown upwards to 30% loss of turned sets during commercials, and that doesn't consider people who left the room or muted the sound.

Without the commercials, without copyrighted material sold for a fee, there would be no income to produce any more of it.

How much do you pay for cable? How many channels to do you get? Would you be interested if you were paying $2 or $3 a month per channel for it? Let's say you get 100 channels... so you would be paying $200 or $300 per month for your cable so you have the rights to do what you like.

You wouldn't like that, would you? There is no such thing as a free lunch. You can get a free meal by stealing from everyone else's plate, but soon enough nobody wants to eat with you anymore and you starve.

Basically, you want everyone else to amuse you, and you want them to do it for free. When you finally graduate highschool and get a job, you will learn that life isn't so easy.

09-24-2007, 09:08 AM
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Gideon, all the links you have provided is for cases in progress or threats to sue (similar to what your bumbuddies at TPB are doing now), and nothing that shows completed, judged cases. MPAA and others I know are considering the Canadian judgement very carefully. One of the options open to them is to ask that these sites be null routed outside of Canada, or asking the Canadian courts to rule that these sites much has geo restrictions on them. Remember, people outside of Canada don't pay that tax that goes to the artists in question. Again, nothing has clearly shown ISOHunt's involvement in any of these cases, nor have you posted anything that says "ISOHunt cleared by courts, now 100% legal" - because apparently you can't. The fair uses you site are narrow. There is no way for the courts to know if you have paid for cable (or sat), so the exemption isn't there in it's totality. There is no way to know if you pay for the channels that the material came from. If you are downloading a chopped up commercial free version of the show, you are not downloading it in the manner that you would have recorded it off the air, depriving the stations that originally broadcast it the potential ad revenue. I know, you aren't a neilson family - but if enough neilson families start doing it, life will go to shit. You do understand that for cable channels in the US, neilson is now providing ratings by the second that show how many people actually watch the commercials, and the rates of those commercials are set by the number of viewers DURING THE COMMERCIAL PERIODS. This was done because the teenagers like you have the attention spans of fleas on crack, and every time a commercial comes on you start channel surfing like mad. MTV has shown upwards to 30% loss of turned sets during commercials, and that doesn't consider people who left the room or muted the sound. Without the commercials, without copyrighted material sold for a fee, there would be no income to produce any more of it. How much do you pay for cable? How many channels to do you get? Would you be interested if you were paying $2 or $3 a month per channel for it? Let's say you get 100 channels... so you would be paying $200 or $300 per month for your cable so you have the rights to do what you like. You wouldn't like that, would you? There is no such thing as a free lunch. You can get a free meal by stealing from everyone else's plate, but soon enough nobody wants to eat with you anymore and you starve. Basically, you want everyone else to amuse you, and you want them to do it for free. When you finally graduate highschool and get a job, you will learn that life isn't so easy.