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Old 09-30-2007, 07:16 PM  
Kevin Marx
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gideon, you have a very hard head. Why go after individual seeders? Without the network of torrent sites and trackers, they would be seeding to NOBODY. The copyright violation doesn't occur when someone encodes a file for torrent distribution, it happens when it gets seeded onto a torrent network.

Remove the trackers, stop the network from accepting new seeded file, and suddenly there is no more violation possible.

Do torrents have legitimate uses? Very few if any, and what few valid uses they might have are lost because the system requires extensive bandwidth leeching from ISPs to make it go.

You keep repeating over and over, fair use this, betamax that, but in all cases, we have shown that those arguments either don't apply or are total horseshit. Can you at least address the points? Fair use is bullshit and VERY narrow in scope, and certainly doesn't apply to torrent sites, otherwise there would be all sorts of torrent sites in the US. The betamax decision is the same. Doesn't apply here, otherwise it would have been argued and there would be a ton of torrent sites in the US. There are not, so your argument is weak.

Maybe you need to cruis back to the torrent chat boards for a while and get some new ammo, this stuff is very worn out.
I know he will come back with the claim that his Fair Use rights are paramount and you can't quash the users ability to access what they have a legal right to.

Your individual users rights exist because of my work and because of everyone else's work, but they do not supercede my right to make money with it. When your actions, whether intentional or accidental, overcome my creationary rights, then common sense and legality indicate that you should stop your actions (this is pretty much how the EUCD reads). If you don't want to stop, then you should be punished. of course US law is more stringent than this.

the intent of Fair use is for you to fairly use the work for yourself as an individual. Reading more than that into it is ludicrous. Sharing is not an individual right.

where does common sense say that once you have misplaced, removed or disposed of something that you have bought, that you have a lifetime right to regain it? That's just silly. You have the ability to back something up at the time of sale/purchase... end of story..

Why the playing on the "timeshifting" aspect???? the intent of timeshifting with a VCR is to capture at the moment of delivery to review at later time.... It is not intended as a means by which you can capture at a much later time via an alternative method when you deem it to be prudent.

Seriously.. just because I paid my cable bill from January of 2000 through the present day does not mean that I should have access to every cable show shown during that period to use and distribute as I wish... that's just a silly argument. Especially when you add to that argument that I have no legal jeopardy in the matter, it is up to the receiver of my distribution to determine whether or not they may legally accept what I am offering.
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