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Old 10-21-2007, 02:06 PM  
polle54
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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster View Post
RawAlex most colluders pretty much suck at collusion.

I know how simple it is for people to collude online, I know how to do it all by myself without needing any friends.

however, the sites have security software that looks for patterns, like accounts who sit down at tables fairly often, and if one account happens to dump chips to another, then that raises yet another warning flag.

They have caught a number of players who have used multi-accounts, and any accounts that are remotely tied to theirs get shut down as well.

Here recently JJProdigy he was only 15 the first time he got busted for multi-accounting, he got busted yet again.

Anyway, he paid people to use their accounts, or worked out a deal where they got the rake back or FPP's, he did this across quite a few accounts.

Well in the end, those people who only allowed him to use their accounts got popped right along with him, and any account that was associated with those accounts were either suspended or have been added to a watch list.

Let's use some common sense here. When Frank Rosenthal *the real life guy the movie Casino was based on," got here to Vegas, one thing he realized. Is that the casinos didn't have to cheat. They would make money either way. The mafia who still controls most casinos in this town, however under the guise of corporations realized this as well and cleaned up their businesses.

My point is, the poker rooms make money regardless, there really is no reason to skim, or put bots on tables or in tournaments. Sure they might make a few more million at the end of the year, but it's a very short sighted way of running business.

Right now, this very minute Pokerstars has 106K people playing on it's site across 16K tables. Why jeopardize the cash cow.

Lee Jones the former poker room manager for PokerStars wrote a very good article about the subject...
http://www.cardplayer.com/magazine/article/16993

I'm not trying to name drop, but as I have posted already in this thread my roommate was fairly deep in Party Poker, made millions off of her stock well before it went public, because her lawyer advised against being an owner of an online gaming company.

Her company, was the original Party Poker affiliate, they were the first, and one of the biggest.

She knows anyone and everyone in this biz, and I trust what she tells me. She of course unlike some young guns like Brian Townsend won't leave millions online, but she can play in some of the biggest games going.

My point is, if she feels safe from the sites, then so do I.
Very good post.

Raw Alex I understand where your concerns come from but please answer me the follwing:

How much poker have you played (how many hand in PT or the likes)?
Are you a programmer? Know C++ and Client - Server programming=
Do you know how the RNG are approved an such?

I think, and I really don't mean to offend you, that you need to study this a bit and you will see that it's not something you just do. Adding a 0.5% edge to bot players or the likes.

Other than that please consider what Eros just said about motivation.
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