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Old 10-26-2007, 07:20 AM  
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Originally Posted by ServerGenius View Post
The whole discussion about what software programs use is useless. It's much
more relevant to discuss or question the people who are using it as that's what
mostly determines if you get screwed or not.

The whole shaving modules scripts etc is nonsense too anyone who wants
to shave is able to do so......even if you use CCbill and their third party
affiliate software system. People who shave using scripts are not only
scammers they're also incredible stupid for a number of different reasons.

Hint: It's not smart to store proof that you screw people. Not only will you
get caught shaving by someone sooner or later.....when the IRS comes in
to check your stuff you'll present them with the perfect data they need
to fine the shit out of you......

The easiest and safest way by FAR to shave is to manually "cancel" affiliate
sent members so recurring payouts are stopped....whitout that the member
really cancelled his membership. There's not a single system that can prevent
this.

The whole affiliate software war/bashing is getting old and it just makes the
people who fight it look stupid......

Finally getting all paranoid by wondering if you get shaved or not is stupid
and doesn't help you in any way. Here's 2 reasons why you shouldn't

1: Any program that shaves too much is stealing from himself coz their
affiliates will stop promoting them.

2: The only thing you should look at is traffic sent versus revenue made.
If you're not happy with the return switch program....problem solved.

Accusing or suspecting you get robbed makes no difference whether it's
true or not, you can't proof it and even if you can there's nothing you can
do about it.

There's probably programs that after shave still make you more money than
a lot of programs that don't shave......and that says it all.....as long as you
are satisfied with the return on the traffic you sent why bother about anything else?

If you're not happy or suspect people from robbing you.....move on that hurts
the program more than crying about it on a message board. I wouldn't even
mention it unless I would have undeniable proof they're robbing from everyone
And I'd do it only to warn others about so they can check their stats and see
if they should move on or not..

Any other bullshit hurst nobody else than yourself.....and will cost you much
more money than a few bucks that maybe got shaved off during a sales period.

Now I'm pretty dumb so that means that if I understand this many more do
which leads me to believe that the ones who make a habit of this kind of
drama are the ones that just use anything as an excuse for their own failure
to make money.......but since I'm stupid I could be wrong
I'm about to get on a plane so I'll have to keep this short.

But since you brought up the shaving thing in such detail. Its not the fact of can or can't shave. Its the fact of encouraging and aiding and assisting shaving vs. taking the opposite approach of being 110% against it.

Those who can't see the difference on that confuse me.

edit: as far as your comment about the fact that you should not blindly look at the software a program is using but rather you should look at the people behind it I agree 100%. You should also look at the people who work for them, the people who own and work for their host, who they process with, and who is behind the software and services they use (affiliate software, content, etc.) as well.

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