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Old 02-05-2003, 01:18 PM  
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Originally posted by jas1552

No. I don't see your point at all. It would be wrong to sit by and say "Oh well it's none of our business" while Saddam starves, tortures, and murders his people. I guess you could have said the same about Hitler. It's none of our business let him take over europe and commit genocide. I suppose you would support doing away with the no fly zone and let Saddam finish killing all the kurds because it's none of our business.

Yes war will likely cause some sufferring and death but doing nothing will cause much more sufferring and death.

If Americans decide we don't want Bush to be our president we will have a chance to vote him out. Bush doesn't starve, torture, or murder.
Sadam Hussein has attacked the Kurds after an attempt by them, helped by the CIA, to overturn his government. The CIA ran out of Nothern Iraq and left the Kurds to be massacred... This doesn;t make Sadam a good guy, but it is not the only instance in the world that this type of situation has occured and still is occuring... Rwanda was one of them. This I think you cannot deny that a genocide was commited? Did the US go in to save these oil less people????

Your reference to Hitler is of the map. Hitler invaded countries ( numerous before anybody did anything, and the US did nothing till Japan bombed P.H. ) abit like Sadam when he invaded Kuwait. Actions were taken by the world community at that time ( Gulf War). Now Iraq has invaded nobody .

Onthe Bush issue, you are right:

quote: " If Americans decide we don't want Bush to be our president we will have a chance to vote him out " end of quote

In your statment, I do not see other countries ousting Bush. It is to the americans to decide who they want as their leader. Even , if the americans want to get him for a third mandate ( normally impossible), if they wish to change their constitution, then let it be.
So, it is not to the Americans or any other countries to decide who is going to govern the Iraquis. If so, they you will decide who will govern Russia because they massacre the Chechens????

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"Bush doesn't starve, torture, or murder"

No, not yet. But previous US presidents did:

Killed Salvatore Allende, installed Pinochet and killed thousands of Chileans.

Nicaraga with Somoza

Guatemala to the profit of United Fruits Brand

Cuba: numerous assasination tentatives and Blockout of the island ( tend to increase starvation....)

and so on.

The only thing I said is that it is not to the US to decide who governs Iraq. You added the same ol shit in your answer.

Now, should Iraq comply to resolutions.: YES

Did they do so up to now: NOT COMPLETELY

If they do not comply, should their be sanctions ( blockus, war, etc...) : YES

Who decides: not the US, but the UN with the support of all countries.

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