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Old 11-14-2007, 02:31 PM  
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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays View Post
realize... i am from Seattle. not sure what "america" has to do with anything.

saying someone doesn't have class for not tipping a rude or horrible waitress that made the experience terrible is just an admission to being a weak minded pussy who finds it easier to go with the flow rather than take a stand for what you believe in.

there is no sign hanging over the door of ANY restaurant ANYWHERE that says "all waitresses are entitled to tips and basically, its just a matter of class"

as has been said many times, tips are for people to offer GOOD service. thats what tips are. its about rewarding efforts that go above and beyond.

class? class has nothing to do with money. you seem to think you can buy class... sorry.... you can't. you cant throw a waitress a $5.00 bill and be "classy"

nice try.

its because of people like you that every asshole under the sun has a tip jar out or thinks they should be tipped as a matter of course.

its rediculous and pathetic.

i was listening to a talk radio show on the rock station the other day in seattle where the subject was tipping and i couldn't fucking believe how many different people and professions think you should automatically tip them. when i agree to pay XX.XX for a service ... THAT IS THE AGREEMENT. there is nothing extra unless you earned it or deserve it. end of story.
I thought I explained what "America" had to do with something, but to elaborate, in many European countries, the tip is built into the menu price, and the service staff take a cut from the day's sales at the end of the day just as they might pool tips and split them here in America.

Insofar as "class" goes... yeah, you can't really buy it, but I'm not suggesting that anyone's "buying" anything, man... it just is. Just because you tip, it doesn't mean that you're classy, but I do believe that the inverse is true. Stiffing a waiter (again, your right to do), in my estimation, is a pretty significant indicator that you're not a very sophisticated individual.

Putting someone in a position to have to pay for working for you - not exactly justifiable, i think.

But as I implied, I wouldn't necessarily expect you to understand.
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