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Missy · 12-29-2007, 08:16 PM

I can't remember why I started smoking when I was younger, but the reason I started again last year is stress. For me, that's the only benefit of smoking: it's is an excellent stress reliever. And as I get older and less willing to partake in other "vices", I find myself more inclined to pick up a cigarette when I feel the need for a "something". But I am constantly telling myself that I need to quit again; it's just that the need for a vice outweighs logic sometimes.

However... even as a smoker, I do love the fact that bars, restaurants, etc. have become smoke-free environments. Also, being in CA, it seems that just about every public socializing establishment has it's own smoking area, completely seperate from the main areas so to limit the effects on non-smokers. Other states adopting the no-smoking policies should follow suit. I recently spent a few months in Washington (also a non-smoking state), and designated smoking areas in WA seem to be the exception rather than the norm. I suspect that OR is the same in it's lack of smoking areas? I think that if more businesses designate areas for smokers to hang out away from non-smokers, it would eliminate some of the crass-ness you are referring to.

Another thing about people smoking right in front of business entrances, etc... I have noticed that most places like grocery stores, shopping centers, movie theaters, all put their ashtrays right in front of the entrance doors. Smokers naturally gravitate toward the ashtrays when they are out getting their fix. I think that if stores and other such businesses would put their ashtrays off to the side, that would help eliminate some of the effects on other customers. Of course, it would also result in more litter because some people are just too damn lazy to walk the extra 30 feet to use an ashtray or garbage can. And face it... people like that are going to fuck things up for everybody else no matter what rules or facilities are in place for them. Those are the people who just don't give a crap about anybody else but themselves, whether it comes to smoking, driving, talking on cell phones in movie theaters... whatever. There are always going to be some people that you can never please no matter what, so there's no use trying.

Anyway, the point I was trying to make is that I think a lot of smokers felt alienated when these laws started popping up. They get kicked out of their environmnent, are forced outside and often not given a seperate area to do their dirty work, and people are still bitching. I mean face it, non-smokers as a whole are not going to be entirely happy until they have passed laws confining smoking to inside people's own homes and nowhere else. I think it's caused a much more "in your face" attitude from smokers than before these laws started happening. And I know it's not the responsibility of businesses to cater to smokers, but I think that if more did, there would be much less clash between smokers and non.

12-29-2007, 08:16 PM
Missy FLASHCA$H.COM Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: In my skin Posts: 1,257	I can't remember why I started smoking when I was younger, but the reason I started again last year is stress. For me, that's the only benefit of smoking: it's is an excellent stress reliever. And as I get older and less willing to partake in other "vices", I find myself more inclined to pick up a cigarette when I feel the need for a "something". But I am constantly telling myself that I need to quit again; it's just that the need for a vice outweighs logic sometimes. However... even as a smoker, I do love the fact that bars, restaurants, etc. have become smoke-free environments. Also, being in CA, it seems that just about every public socializing establishment has it's own smoking area, completely seperate from the main areas so to limit the effects on non-smokers. Other states adopting the no-smoking policies should follow suit. I recently spent a few months in Washington (also a non-smoking state), and designated smoking areas in WA seem to be the exception rather than the norm. I suspect that OR is the same in it's lack of smoking areas? I think that if more businesses designate areas for smokers to hang out away from non-smokers, it would eliminate some of the crass-ness you are referring to. Another thing about people smoking right in front of business entrances, etc... I have noticed that most places like grocery stores, shopping centers, movie theaters, all put their ashtrays right in front of the entrance doors. Smokers naturally gravitate toward the ashtrays when they are out getting their fix. I think that if stores and other such businesses would put their ashtrays off to the side, that would help eliminate some of the effects on other customers. Of course, it would also result in more litter because some people are just too damn lazy to walk the extra 30 feet to use an ashtray or garbage can. And face it... people like that are going to fuck things up for everybody else no matter what rules or facilities are in place for them. Those are the people who just don't give a crap about anybody else but themselves, whether it comes to smoking, driving, talking on cell phones in movie theaters... whatever. There are always going to be some people that you can never please no matter what, so there's no use trying. Anyway, the point I was trying to make is that I think a lot of smokers felt alienated when these laws started popping up. They get kicked out of their environmnent, are forced outside and often not given a seperate area to do their dirty work, and people are still bitching. I mean face it, non-smokers as a whole are not going to be entirely happy until they have passed laws confining smoking to inside people's own homes and nowhere else. I think it's caused a much more "in your face" attitude from smokers than before these laws started happening. And I know it's not the responsibility of businesses to cater to smokers, but I think that if more did, there would be much less clash between smokers and non. __________________ See what's new at FLASHCA$H Missy - Brian's Sidekick ICQ: 78989718