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BFT3K · 01-03-2008, 10:49 AM

I am no expert for sure, but in my humble opinion, tube sites ARE a HUGE threat to the adult entertainment business.

When TGPs and MGPs began to gain popularity there were a lot of people who said the same thing, but there is no comparison.

MGPs and TGPs only gave visitors sample clips and images, and although they are considered by many to be "free" porn, they also served as advertisements for sites, gave affiliates lots of content to promote sites with, and increased sign-ups.

Tube sites on the other hand, often offer FULL scenes, so there is no need to sign-up to any site. In some cases they even go out of their way to block the watermark of the original video to actually prevent viewers from redirecting at all!

I will not list any of the MANY tube sites I have recently run across, as I do not wish to promote any of them at all, but now many tube sites are catering to specific niches, so site owners who pretend it is all okay, because their site(s) are more focused than the tube sites are living in a dream world.

The people on this board produce adult content for profit, or promote adult content for profit. The tube sites are cutting into that profit, and will continue to do so unless they are stopped. They are NOT helpful in ANY way!!!

THEY HAVE TO GO!

What can be done about this? Well, here are a few suggestions. I am posting this in hopes that some of you who understand this threat, can add a few more, and then MAYBE we can make the tube site problem go away, or become so problematic for their owners that they think twice before launching new ones...

Suggestions:

1) Do NOT do business with ANY advertisers that advertise on ANY tube sites. Call them out. Without advertisers tube sites do not make money. They are stealing OUR content, and then profiting on the traffic via advertiser revenue. Who are these advertisers? FUCK THEM! They are fucking us, so stop doing business with them until they get the point.

2) Write and share bandwidth sucking scripts specifically written to waste their bandwidth. In the short term this may improve their Alexa ratings or whatever, but once it is concluded that their traffic does not convert the advertisers will drop off, and their hosting bills will increase, thus resulting in less profit for the thieves.

3) NEVER join a tube site's premium or upgrade service. Don't give them a fucking nickle. They are stealing your profit, and they WILL destroy the adult online business. Don't fool yourselves, or think they will just play nice and go away.

4) If they are US based, or run by US companies or US citizens call them out for not having, or properly filing, their 2257 information. The US government is supposedly so concerned about all of this crazy record keeping insanity, and yet I have yet to hear of one inspection of a tube site.

There is an old saying... "Ignore your teeth and they will just go away"

Well, in this case the saying could be "Ignore the threat posed by tube sites and your profits and livelihood will just go away"

Well, that's my 2 cents anyway.

01-03-2008, 10:49 AM
BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	Are Tube Sites Really a Big Threat to the Biz? I am no expert for sure, but in my humble opinion, tube sites ARE a HUGE threat to the adult entertainment business. When TGPs and MGPs began to gain popularity there were a lot of people who said the same thing, but there is no comparison. MGPs and TGPs only gave visitors sample clips and images, and although they are considered by many to be "free" porn, they also served as advertisements for sites, gave affiliates lots of content to promote sites with, and increased sign-ups. Tube sites on the other hand, often offer FULL scenes, so there is no need to sign-up to any site. In some cases they even go out of their way to block the watermark of the original video to actually prevent viewers from redirecting at all! I will not list any of the MANY tube sites I have recently run across, as I do not wish to promote any of them at all, but now many tube sites are catering to specific niches, so site owners who pretend it is all okay, because their site(s) are more focused than the tube sites are living in a dream world. The people on this board produce adult content for profit, or promote adult content for profit. The tube sites are cutting into that profit, and will continue to do so unless they are stopped. They are NOT helpful in ANY way!!! THEY HAVE TO GO! What can be done about this? Well, here are a few suggestions. I am posting this in hopes that some of you who understand this threat, can add a few more, and then MAYBE we can make the tube site problem go away, or become so problematic for their owners that they think twice before launching new ones... Suggestions: 1) Do NOT do business with ANY advertisers that advertise on ANY tube sites. Call them out. Without advertisers tube sites do not make money. They are stealing OUR content, and then profiting on the traffic via advertiser revenue. Who are these advertisers? FUCK THEM! They are fucking us, so stop doing business with them until they get the point. 2) Write and share bandwidth sucking scripts specifically written to waste their bandwidth. In the short term this may improve their Alexa ratings or whatever, but once it is concluded that their traffic does not convert the advertisers will drop off, and their hosting bills will increase, thus resulting in less profit for the thieves. 3) NEVER join a tube site's premium or upgrade service. Don't give them a fucking nickle. They are stealing your profit, and they WILL destroy the adult online business. Don't fool yourselves, or think they will just play nice and go away. 4) If they are US based, or run by US companies or US citizens call them out for not having, or properly filing, their 2257 information. The US government is supposedly so concerned about all of this crazy record keeping insanity, and yet I have yet to hear of one inspection of a tube site. There is an old saying... "Ignore your teeth and they will just go away" Well, in this case the saying could be "Ignore the threat posed by tube sites and your profits and livelihood will just go away" Well, that's my 2 cents anyway.