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Old 01-05-2008, 01:12 PM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by tony404 View Post
We belong to a short sighted industry,thats the problem.
It's been that way since day one, I came here.

Just a few random thoughts and this is a generalisation and there are sites that are the exception. So this is just my general impression and thoughts.

Downside.

You make your bed you lie in it.

From day 1 it has always been content in front of traffic, so some of the content the surfer was paying for simply was not worth what he was paying. The industry spends as much as 50% of it's turn over in traffic and maybe as little as 10% in what the surfer is buying.

Many had little to no qualms of ripping off the surfer to pay the affiliates or themselves. Rip off a surfer and he deserved it, rip off an affiliate and you're scum.

The average porn consumer needs 20 minutes, not 30 days. If he really needed 30 days, Tube sites would grind to a halt. Few sell what the consumer needs.

I have yet to see anything go beyond threads on boards. If you want to win a fight you have to start throwing punches. Very few will. I watched the reaction to Acacia and saw people support sponsors who signed up and still support them. While others spend money in court to keep those ass holes at bay.

Upside. (I'm not sure of my facts so please be kind.)

If Tube sites cater to those who do not pay for porn then they have to pay for dating and cam sites. Eventually the new surfers to buy these will slow down to a level that the advertisers will realise they are over paying for traffic. without the other avenues to support them they will cut advertising budgets.

However the Tube sites will grow in surfers, more surfers buying less dating and cam sites will make them more costly and less profitable.

With the Internet at the point that it's slowing down because of the "free porn" I don't expect hosting to get cheaper and pay sites help support the infra structure.

As I said I might be wrong there. Only the Tube sites know. Unless big companies come in with big bucks to fund advertising. Or people will sign up to paysites from Tube sites.

I suspect the Adult Net will change a lot over the coming years. Traffic might be king, but not if it's so expensive the surfer will not pay the bill. Hosting is 10-20 cents a GB, I'm thinking good servers and all the other costs. A good quality scene is 400-600 GB. So a movie off a good server is costing 4 to 12 cents. Will the surfer spend 25 to 50 cents to view that scene? The prices are to illustrate the point I'm trying to make so be kind.

If affiliates insist we pay out $30 a join then the members have to pay for it. Will they with Tube sites?

Will the surfer pay $1 for 4 good scenes in a niche/style all to their liking on a fast server and good quality? If the answer is no, we are fucked because other than threads on boards I see little movement to stop the people stealing our surfers. Before you flame me see this www.removeyourcontent.com if you know of a better option tell me and I will sign up.

As I said just some thoughts. So no flaming but I welcome constructive critisism. I'm not a wise as I make out. ;)
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