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Originally Posted by JasonSmokes
that's a good point..
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Originally Posted by Diligent
Actually... I think they can be good in a way for us that target surfers that actually pay for what they want.
Tubes attract the pure freeloaders, who are accustomed to getting online, search places they know for whackoff-material, whackoff.. and be done with it in a few minutes.
Essentially, they may "suck out" (no pun intended) the freeloaders from our traffic.
Tubes can keep them for all I care.. ;)
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Thanks, guessing You saw the point I was trying to make, haven't seen anyone bring any argument for or against it.
If things would pan out the way I'm thinking, there can't be any complaining really.
The point was that we have always had an amount of freeloaders in our traffic, diluting the traffic quality and thus worsening our ratios...
If Tubes come along and attract *that* specific "clientele", *our* ratios will improve - yet with pretty much the same amount of joins!
(Of course; not that there's any significant win in that, now that bandwidth cost isn't much of an issue anymore for those of us who push "light" media,
like pictures + occasional movies).
Basically, I'm fairly convinced most joins nowadays come from people who won't join the freeloader group, for more reasons than the one.
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Originally Posted by brandonstills
It does threaten some business models in the adult industry but if you know business history, markets are constantly evolving. We as an industry must think from the customer's perspective and learn how to make them happy while still making money. Those who don't will die off. We can bitch and moan all we want but ask yourself does that help us out at all? See the world for what it is and you have a much better chance of responding to it. Otherwise you are working blind.
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Excellent points

I agree with You and Paul Markham a lot here.
One step the industry could take to keep things going smoothly for everyone, from big programs to smaller affiliates, could be to gradually lower the price for site memberships ALONG WITH membership length.
2 weeks access for $15-20, 1 week access for $10 and keep 1-3 days access at around $5.
I'm sure many affiliates thinks this sounds ridiculous, or dangerous.. and will until they see their amount of joins increase instead!
