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Originally Posted by Dirty F
You know a gun owner really isnt too bright if he:
1:Thinks that instead of a few criminals if half the country has a gun things are more safe.
2: He brings up the car argument.
Well since basically every gun owner does that we can conclude that most gun owners arent the brightest people around.
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Ahh... only caught this post on a reread of the thread. So, your strategy here is to attack without asserting any real points of substance yourself, eh? I thought the resolution of "you're stupid" was something we all gave up in grade school.
For the record, I don't own a gun. I'm simply a proponent of citizen rights, and a student of Western philosophy.
Nor did I ever mention the word, or any word that could be derived from "safe." "Safety" is an illusion.
To quote myself from a previous thread:
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"Fact: As the courts have affirmed time and time again, U.S. citizens are not constitutionally entitled to police protection.
Our forefathers declared the citizen as the ultimate authority in our country. The Founding Fathers knew that this authority must be backed by lethal force, and for the rest of time. We're a Republic. We're not a Police State.
Just as having a populace trained in CPR and the Heimlich maneuver can be an asset to society, so can be an armed society properly trained in weapon use.
The tragedies are a shame when they happen, but perhaps they're a part of living in a free society with mentally unstable people.
I say the answer's in treating the people... and many of you are telling me the answer's in limiting the freedom.
Let's not forget that, historically, the first step toward tyranny has nearly always been disarming the populace.
It continues to baffle me how many people are consistently willing to surrender their liberties for an illusion of greater security."
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I know you're not an American, but I wouldn't think the ideals of "freedom" and "personal liberty" would be foreign to any human.
I'd appreciate a real explanation as to why the car analogy I brought up isn't apt - (or at least a pointer to where else you might have responded to it before, as I'm not aware of any such counter), and why you promote society persisting in a Police State.... be sure to hit those points up in a reply, if you would.
Cheers.