Originally Posted by TheDoc

Why do you think that? If you spend 50% less, never pay for pills again, never pay a copay again, you would save unknown amounts of money over the years. Who's responsibility should it be?

I think you feel this way because you have insurance. But if you couldn't get it, at all, how would you then feel?

My wife has epilepsy and is forced to work for larger corps so she can "live". Just to live, enjoy her kids (which we paid for). If she loses her job for whatever reason, she is fucked. They won't take any amount of money to keep her. To add her to my company, all staff costs increase to $3k monthly, she can't get her own at any price. Oh and her meds, with insurance is still $100's a month and we have a $2k per person copay. That's fair?

Now in Canada, Gov provided health care, it's all free, having kids, the pills, the doctor, emergency rooms, the $50k device in her chest to keep her from having seizures... all of it is included in Canada.

Simple logic tells you that the Universal Health care, like several countries have, is far better in every way, than our current health care system.