Originally Posted by TheDoc

I don't think AVS traffic converts as good or better than TGP traffic. And when breaking down Tube traffic, if you pull just the US/CA/UK/AU traffic it converts damn near as well as AVS traffic.

You are talking about a massive difference in marketing. TGP's don't offer join forms on every page or gallery, but overall a large TGP creates a large amount of sales each day across the broad range of galleries/sponsors. Where an AVS is more focused into one billing backend of already filtered traffic.

Tubes contain no less quality buyers, you just have a lot more bad-quality countries to filter out. If you focus on the US/CA and such traffic and filter off other traffic sources to areas they can buy. Once the traffic is qualified it easily converts as well as all other traffic sources.

Things have changed in the past, things will continue to change. Just because your ratios aren't as pretty doesn't mean you can't get 10x the sales you once could.

Free porn didn't hurt us, it only helps, even full rips. What is killing is, is the Internet. 5, 8, 10 years ago people had very few things that could pull them away from porn. Now they have 1000's of things, social networks, tubes, rpg games, more focused internet users, and the list goes on and on and on.

The real threat to our business is the same thing it has always been. Bad companies fucking with surfers, spam, scams, toolbars, spyware, all the dirty shit that people have done. This is the real reason it's harder for everyone, not stolen porn.