Originally Posted by kane

This is very true. 12 year olds think is their right to have an Ipod and a cell phone and parents too often just give in and get them for them. And it goes beyond that. Nobody ever loses anymore. My brother's wife's son ( he is from a previous relationship before she married my brother) flunked 80% of his classes in 7th and 8th grade and the school never held him back. They don't graduate 8th graders anymore, they give them a "promotion of excellence" and he moved on. When I was that age the school would have held me back. Now he is in high school and is in on a program where he actually gets extra time to turn in assignments and get credit for them. If a report is due on the 10th and he doesn't have it done they tell him it is okay and give him until the 25th to turn it in and he still gets full credit for it. He is being set up to fail by his mother for not holding him back when she should have and not grinding his ass into the ground when he got bad grades and by the system that teaches him he can pretty much do things when he wants and they are okay with that. It pisses me of.