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Originally Posted by tony404
If that was the case why didnt John just say that? It was all over the newspapers they even interviewed Gonzo. Porn buyers read papers so it involves alot of people.To ask for update I dont think is too much considering one was never given. Then on the other thread he didnt even mention John and John came in great guns.
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I don't quite feel right addressing this as Will can't reply to it. But I wanted to respond to this.
Reread the original thread. He is the one who started to get nasty. His first post even stated things like "and I know I am violating a bro rule" and "So is it still 'on going' or is it just 'forget and move on' time."
My first response back to him was simply "If someone wants to discuss that they're more than welcome to contact me.". Not looking to be rude or nasty. Just a simple straight forward reply. I'm tired of having discussions here where random trolls jump into it with nonsense. However as I have stated many times I'm more than happy to discuss it with anyone.
Then he comes back with
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i know i know i am an asshole for asking. Am I more of an asshole for asking in this thread or would I have been less of an asshole by making a new thread?
I have conceded to the fact that most people think I am an asshole. fine.
I just don't get the " contact me directly" comment. It would make sense if I was the only person who was affected. Then " contact me directly" would be an appropriate response. If it was just between 2 people then there would be no need to make an announcement to the whole board. But this situation is something that affected a LOT of people, both program owners and affiliates who use NATS. I am signed up to several programs that use NATS. John said they were going after who was behind this, they were working with the authorities etc.. but since minuseonbit is gone we hear nothing about this. No updates. nothing. Is it wrong for me to ask for an update ?
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All I had said was to contact me about. Not that he was an asshole or any of this other stuff.
Its at this point I put him on ignore.
He has been making comments about my companies a number of times over the past few months. He has a history of picking targets and making his crusade against them. What got him thinking we should be his next crusade I have no idea, but it was becoming quite obvious to me.
After I put him on ignore a few other people expressed interest in it so I decided to give a basic answer and if anyone wanted any more details to feel free to contact me. A few did and I discussed it with them.
Will then decides to keep going off in the thread about the same thing over and over again. His question was already answered at this point. However I don't reply to him as I don't see a point in fighting with him over it. I didn't attack him when he came in the thread. I simply pointed out to contact me about it.
Apparently I pissed Will of by putting him on ignore here on this board so I could avoid reading his constant repeating of the same thing and focus on the reason we started the thread, a special offer and getting feedback on the upcoming release of a major product in this industry.
This seemed to spur him to create a thread the next day anonymously calling me out about a charity donation being late. This was a mistake on our part. No question about it. I never denied that, I simply believed he was wrong how he went about it. I truly believe that if the original thread didn't happen this thread wouldn't have been created. He could have ICQ'd me, but because he was angry he decided to make a threating thread here about it. This seems spiteful to me. This is a donation, and again, we dropped the ball on being late with it, but it is still something that shouldn't be used to create drama here because he was aggravated in a thread the day before.
Now this new thread continues to go on and on. Eric warned him multiple times to just resolve the issue and move on. He refused to do so. Even creating more threads about the entire situation after the fact.
Again, I feel a bit odd posting this with Will not here and Eric if you'd like to unban him I have no objection to it at all. However, I do feel that Will was the one out of line here. He has made a pattern of making off base comments about my companies the past few months, he jumped into a thread here with something that could have been handled separately or even privately, and he continued to carry on about it after several warnings from the person who runs this board. And believe me, Eric warned me to not go back at him also, several times, and I didn't. He wasn't playing favors, he was being fair across the board.
Will was the one who was wrong here, not myself. The only thing I was wrong on was dropping the ball with the timeliness of the donation to WMTR, which I have never denied.
Also, while speaking about Eric. We haven't bought advertising here in a long time. He isn't playing favors to someone buying ads. Those calling into question his integrity over that are way way off.