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Originally posted by directfiesta
OK. But if you read my post carefully, you will see that I say " both leaders". Now, that means that I suggest that "Yasser Arafat be removed ( at least from negociation if not completely). So your last phrase is unneccessary.
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The problem is on one side and remarks about the Israeli side are irellevant and not important. There is no problem with Sharon atm. Sharon is a side-effect and should do what he was elected for. As much as I don't like Sharon, he was elected in a democratic elections and if anything, I think he is too linient due to pressures from the US. I am a very left wing person (peace camp and all) and I think Israel is not doing enough when it comes to war on terrorism. Sharon has not done anything bad in the last term. If anything - as I said - he didn't do enough. it is very typical of war-protestors to concentrate on the irellevant issues of "oh. but what about the other side". When the palestinian side will be a possible partner for peace a new leader will be elected in Israel to accomodate for the change. Or maybe Sharon will be that person.
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Originally posted by directfiesta
On the other hand, you tell me how Israel had leaders that .... The key word is "had". I am saying leaders of both sides "now", so Sharon for the Israeli. Please do not tell me that Sharon has the diplomacy and will of a Shimon Peres or regreated Rabin.
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At times of war you should fight back - or atleast protect yourself. Shimon peres as well as Ehud barak were voted out because the reality did not fit in their plans ;) It is something Americans, canadians and European will learn in the hard way - reality is not so sweet as you imagine. Some people out there wants to kill you instead of making peace - you will see in time what I meant and after several "demonstrations" like 9/11 you may start realizing what I meant (no matter how much "anti-war" you are)
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Originally posted by directfiesta
During all peace talks, there has been terrorist attacks because the terrorist ( Hamas, ... ) do not want the peace. They want Israel OUT. But I think that this was a minority ( which now is growing because of all those attacks) and that the majority could "prevail" ( I hope Bush doesn't have a "patent" on this term: don't need an Acacia suit). On the other hand, your prime minister was assassinated by an Israeli extremist. So, you see...
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No i don't see.
Its hard for me to say anything that you wont precieve as somewhat offending - but: You don't know what you are talking(of thinking) about.
The fact that Israeli PM was assasinated by an Israeli Jewish extremist says nothing. The fact that Ehud barak was elected after Bibi - shows Israelis can put aside anger and try again and again to achieve peace even if attacked. You may look at it cynically but there is something strong and beautiful about these people and their desire for peace (something a little naive sometimes). There are crazy and extrimist anywhere. At least in Israel they dont get to rule the country.
quoting you "which now is growing because of all those attacks"... I can't start explaining to you why your view on this is twisted and is not relevant. You are too far from the facts and events to be able to judge it correctly. That's just my opinion.
I think you are peace seeking person judging by what you say - So am I. But from time to time dreamers need to open their eyes to see they are not on the edge of a high cliff.