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Check out redtube and there are 5 or so sponsors working with them everyday. I have brought it up here but there was not much action http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/814153-redtube.html I agree that putting pressure on the people that support them can help. But nobody has the balls to call out their bros.

Then there is the GTS thing and tube8. DH and the sponsors above are trying to make them legit by working with them while they steal. They will all be legit soon so lets make money now while they are illegal, or something along those lines is what they say, LOL. I really do not get that but anyways ...

There are also tubes out there that use other peoples content to try and sell their paysite. Anyone who reads this board often knows what I am talking about. It has been brought up many times but again but people who could make a difference turn a blind eye.

On another note look at pornhub and freeporn now adays. This is on the other side of the illegal tube site. From what I understand they have legally bought or use the content. They are showing 20+ min videos and it is legally bought. I find myself going to pornhub now more than any of the other illegal sites as they have the longest videos. Will I ever click on ads there or join a paysite, probably not, but sure people do. However, the freeloaders are happier than ever and potential buyers are going to go more and more to the; get it free route. If not initially, eventually.

So this is the industry now adays. People giving full movies away for free to make advertising money, legal or illegal. Since as of yet none of these models have been proven to be profitable, we can only wait and see what happens. Yeah; maybe some are profitable but for how long ...

I for one don't even put time into this industry anymore and only have three sponsors listed on some toplists. Almost every sponsor is dirty in this new adult world. In fact one that I removed a while back has partnered with one of the criminals and responds it is a way to adapt and get with the times essentially. The tubes are not going anywhere ...

And they are not but, people should try to gain some reason in all this getting traffic. Is it really smart to post 30 minute videos to get more traffic than the next tube? I don't think it is, but heck I have been wrong before and maybe I am missing something. But if I don't go anywhere but to the next tube that has the longest videos, what are the surfers doing?

People can post all the dinosaurs they want and attempt to laugh their way to the bank, but what you have here is the downfall of the models that used to be profitable. Sure there will always be people willing to buy traffic at a loss, but when there is no need for people to pay anymore. It will be interesting to see what happens.

Tgp traffic in some cases became very unprofitable; so what better than to sell spots and get guaranteed money. The tubes regardless if they are legit or not also get guaranteed money from advertisers; or if not that make attempts at selling memberships. I hope for the sake of many that things do work out and people can still make money, but in this state it seems stale.

One thing before I end don't tell me that the old tgp / mgp pics or 3 minute clips is anywhere in the same league of the 40 min video tubes with instant access to any part of the video that you want. It is not the same

A note of advice check who you work with closely and you will not be happy. Out of 100's of sponsors it seems none of them are clean.

Anyways, just ranting and I am not going to try and edit mistakes or anything because I already wasted too much time on this anyways, go on with you days ...