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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
the issue has absolutely nothing to do with "morality" or "personal repugnance" - a father does not sexually molest his child because of the psychological damage it causes, the pain it causes, the life long trauma it causes. because it was once "acceptable" to varying degrees at different points in history or in different areas of the world, does not change the harm it causes. a lot of things have been "acceptable" and we could go on for the next 3 weeks making uber retarded lists of "what was once acceptable" and that has nothing to do with the emotional trauma, the hurt, the pain, the betrayal and the damage done to a child as the result of being sexualized or raped by a parent.
secondly, this whole conversation about "right" and "wrong" assumes that two emotionally healthy people can have such a relationship. and some seem to be more than willing to further assume that just because two people are together doing something so abhorrent, as long as they proclaim it to be "love" then its totally ok, totally normal and a totally healthy relationship for all involved. no psychologist on the face of the earth is going to agree with that. no psychologist is going to say "well, to be honest, i can't see how a father having children with his daughter while raising her children from another marriage, is going to cause any harm to them, to the existing children or to the new children"
i personally don't care what anyone does behind closed doors. but this isn't about what two people are doing. this is about what two people are doing to 3 and probably more children.
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Yeah... I'll give you that it's a fucked up situation... and one that will, taken down the slippery slope (3 or 4 generations later, at least), ultimately result in birth defects and other genetic mutations, all-the-while potentially causing mental states and processes to form in the children that are rejected by society...
But maybe that becomes a child welfare issue. I don't believe there's any other precedent for limiting sexual relationships based physical or psychological travesties that may result in the offspring of said relationship. Maybe I'm wrong there, but I can't think of one off the cuff.
If any party involved is a minor - well, then it's a cut-and-dry case of statutory rape. A father doing it to his under-aged son/daughter? Give him the maximum sentence, for sure.
But if they're both adults?
As fucked up as it may be (hell, to even begin to even give real thought to this situation, I have to put out of my mind that I have sisters or a mother), I don't think i have the right to tell another adult where they can or cannot stick their private parts provided all parties involved are consensual.
So, that's what I personally think... even though I was, originally, just calling out your 99.9% statement, since the 'math guy' in me howled...
Still, I see your point. Life for children that result could (and probably would) suck a bit. I just think that it should, legally, be treated as a separate matter than the relationship of the parents.
However, that said "legally" does not equal "socially"... over beers, I'd have absolutely no problem telling a father that's fucking his adult daughter that he's got some real issues - and maybe recommending a good shrink in the process. 'Cause (to get a bit crass for a moment) in our society, we might let the mentally retarded fuck... but, imho, if you think it's kosher and healthy to have sex with your daughter, you gotta be the poster-boy for the mentally retarded.