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Originally Posted by TheDoc
Of course not, but that still doesn't change the fact that he didn't have one on. And if the driver was drunk, even more reason for the passenger to get the fuck out of the car.
You can't win an argument with me on DUI.. I was an MP - and I only ever ONCE busted a guy for DUI, but the assault charges were much worse, which is why he got busted for DUI. I took people home, and for damn good reason.
Why ruin a life of a young person, or any person? When the system is designed to FUCK you over, just in design.
Think about it.. Bars, clubs, hotels, restaurants, gas stations, food stores, even the Police ball, fireman fund raises, the military and veteran organizations, and the list goes on and on.. all have promos or parties, selling/serving beer and drinks - and yet.... they have no responsibility to get you home safe.. They know you are blasted - they look the other way as you walk out the door with keys in hand.
These companies and the city should all be forced to pay a tax, that will cover free public transportation for people who want to drink. Even the smallest, home bar, should be forced to do this.. For me to take a cab home it's $60 - doing so I bet would turn up a lot more cities turning dry.
Now, if you had something like this, and then you were DUI, well.. max to the limits then.
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Having read more about the Hogan situation is turns out he was not above what would be the normal legal limit. His friend should have to shoulder some of the blame for his situation because he chose to get into the car. If he knew Nick had been drinking (drunk or not) that was a stupid situation. Letting him drive like an idiot and not telling him to stop and let him out is mistake number 2. Still, when you are behind the wheel you are responsible for the people in your car so he should have to shoulder the majority of the punishment/blame.
As for driving drunk. I'm sorry, but you can't blame the system or use the system as a reason/excuse for people driving drunk. I understand that people go to bars and clubs and drink and the owers/bartenders turn their back and know that these people are driving drunk. But what ever happened to personal responisiblity? If you are going to go out and drink and you know you will be drunk, why not save enough to get a cab home or arrange for a ride/driver? The reality is you don't have to drink. You don't have to get drunk. Nobody is forced to do any of this stuff. What if you went out and drank and got drunk and drove home and hit a car that had some woman and her kid in it and you killed or crippled her child? Do you just say, "hey, I was out drinking. they knew I was going to drinking and they didn't provide me a way home. So sorry." Her only sin was to be on the road with someone that chose to drink and didn't do it in a responsible way.
If it were up to me here is my punishement schedule. I'm not for ruining somones life because they made a mistake, but when your mistake puts others in danger you need to be taught a lesson.
1st offense. License suspended for 1 year. You can apply for a hardship license so you can get to and from work and to the store to get food. You get a $3,000 fine which you can pay off either in monthly payments or by working in some kind of public service. You get 1 year of probation during which you have to take the alcohol diversion class and you have to submit to random testings because you don't get to drink during that year. If you prove you can't drink responsibly you lose that right for a while.
2nd offense. License suspended for 3 years. You can get the hardship license but the only car you can drive is one of those where they have the breathalyser attached to it. You get 2 years probation and $10,000 in fines. You also get 30 days in jail. You can serve it on weekends if you wan so you can keep your job. You also have the tests and can't drink for the 3 years you are suspended.
3rd offense. License revoked for 10 years. You can't have a hardship license. You get 3 years in jail $50K in fines and 5 years probation.
This might seem harsh, but as I said, drunk driving is 100% avoidable. People act like they have no other choice. They do. Every year there are around 16,000 deaths due to drunk driving. Around 40% of all driving related deaths are from booze. People who choose to drink and drive should be treated very roughly because they are taking a lot of innocent people's lives into their hands.