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Originally Posted by EmpireAutopilot
This post destroys your arguments. Obama has been 100% clear about the timetables and the fact that unforseen events can lead things to change.
He made it a point to note that he will give his commanders a new plan, to get us out of Iraq as safely as possible. Once they have this plan he will take their advice and suggestions on the safest way to do this into consideration and deal with problems as they arise. I understand your concerns, but to pretend he hasn't addressed them makes you sound like a neocon calling him a Muslim.
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http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/
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"Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats; if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda." (emphasis added by me)
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Note the use of the word "will", instead of alternatives such as "intends to", "aims to", "plans to", etc.
Now, for comparison:
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/Iraq/
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The most important part of Hillary's plan is the first: to end our military engagement in Iraq's civil war and immediately start bringing our troops home. As president, one of Hillary's first official actions would be to convene the Joint Chiefs of Staff, her Secretary of Defense, and her National Security Council. She would direct them to draw up a clear, viable plan to bring our troops home starting with the first 60 days of her Administration.
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Both want to end the war, and pull out the troops. However, Obama makes a ridiculous promise which might prove impossible to keep, while Clinton does not.
Obama panders. It's an undeniable fact. Of course, so do Clinton and McCain, but the fact that so many people are falling for Obama's obviously misleading claim to bring change is deeply disturbing.
Obama is using "old politics" to attack "old politics". He is exploiting people's aversion of politicians exploiting issues for their own political gain for his own political gain. Certainly, this is a remarkable strategy. It borders on political genius. It also proves beyond a doubt that many voters are gullible idiots.