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Old 06-29-2008, 03:35 PM  
Drake
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Originally Posted by Peaches View Post
Check out the top countries in the 21st century:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._homicide_rate
Statistics don't matter to anti-gun zealots. Your post will be ignored.

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Originally Posted by Gunni View Post
I come from Iceland, a country where most men over say 25 own guns and I'm pretty sure Iceland is safer than Holland, with less gun crimes per capita
Your post will be ignored by anti-gun folks. Iceland must be brimming with religious low IQ Americans since so many guns exist there.

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Originally Posted by CheeseFrog View Post
Right. And just as in the 1st Amendment doesn't guarantee you the right to yell "FIRE!" in a crowded theater, the 2nd wouldn't reasonably allow you to own a nuclear weapon.
Correct. Applying the Constitution requires discretion.

Guns are not "the answer" to any particular problem. Owning a gun does not gaurantee safety against criminals, it can - but doesn't have to - increase homicide rates (many American communities and countries with large quantities of legal guns like Iceland are more safe than those without), owning guns does not gaurantee that a government cannot tyrannize its citizens. Owning guns is simply a right. In America you have the right to do anything (within reason) so long as it's lawful and you do not infringe on the freedoms of others. If somebody wants to own a gun to go to the shooting range for fun, to hunt, because he/she believes (wrongly or rightly) that they're more safe with one and they practise proper safety procedures, what's the problem?
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