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Originally Posted by Socks
What I'm saying is that it seems white people complain - to each other. But they don't do anything about it! People whine about this and that, but they didn't show up to the city meetings, or anything else like it.. Plus their argument is what - to keep enforcing Christianity on Muslim people?
And I don't see the muslims asking us to say their prayers, or teach about Allah or the Qu'ran in our schools, or anything of that nature. They also don't complain about nationhood things like the flag, or about our laws, I mean it's really not as bad as people think.
Biggest issue here in years I can think of was when a Sikh police officer was conflicted over his turban and a police hat. White people were "outraged" as they say, because it's the uniform, and why should these people get an exception!!! lol.. Like they *REALLY* truly care about what a police officer wears or something.. Anyways now they just make them wear black turbans, with a police badge on the front.
It all comes down to free speech, and if the people in charge decide they have valid concerns, then that's their decision to make.
Plus I'm happy that these cultural groups fight for things that are important to them. That's how they really become part of our country and system. I truly believe they are making Canada better by changing our laws to suit their needs - because they are just as Canadian as I am, and my Canadian heritage goes back at least 6 generations.
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You are naive though to the nature of Islam though. Listen I've been through the Middle-East, I've stayed in Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, etc etc, and I've met many nice Muslims, most of whom are quite moderate, not religious even (beyond observing the basic principals) and very friendly and nice people. In Australia I have quite a number of very good Muslim friends, some believers even, who I agree are no real threat. But than again that is due to the size of the Muslim population in Australia being so small. Europe is and will be a different story if the trends continue. If you seriously think you can have a population shift to Muslim majorities in European countries (which will happen, look on any Muslim forum - shiachat, aussiemuslims, etc) and you will see them celebrating the statistics which form that conclusion, without any major change you are simply retarded.
The nature of Islam that unlike Christianity is it isn't open to interpretation or any real change. Islam is a much more understandable and sensible religion than Christianity (at least in the sense it is a well written story). The people who believe it, truly believe it, and whilst there have been attempts to popularize a Western styled Islam it has failed because quite simply certain passages in the Koran are incompatible with Western society (let them tell you what they want to your face, but than ask the punishment for converting outside of religion and they will all admit that a person in an 'Islamic society' should be punished, and most scholars agree that the punishment is death), and Muslim believers quite simply won't go against passages that they believe are the direct word of God. In a sense all Muslim believers are fundamentalists, they have to be, or else they aren't believers at all.
I don't doubt a lot of this shit is sensationalized, such as the turban police office, or even this puppy. I think if you went to the Muslim community the majority of them really couldn't give a fuck, but as you say yourself it is the ones who participate that force the change and Islamic societies or communities that has usually, well almost always has been the religious ones. If Muslim peoples 'inherit' aka take over Europe or European countries things will change. Eurarbia is right.