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Originally Posted by AlienQ
 Anyone that relies entirelly on Tableless design is a fool.
Tabless has no advantage to standard Table Based layouts, infact Tabless layouts still have many cross browser incompatibilities. Meaning A tableless design is more likely to look like shit in in IE than FireFox and will look different in a Nokia and even more different in an Ipod. Fact is... It is still unreliable for control of layout.
There are still many issues to be solved with Tableless based design.
Only reason anyoen would want tabless design is for Mobile devices and such and even in those cases Tableless over Table design is not even worth comparing.
Its just a different way but not a solid way that insures cross browser and mobile compatibility. Table based design still is better, however a good designer uses both and knows when to use Tableless and not use Tables. |
Yeah, because more markup and bloat is exactly what search engines love to eat up, lets not forget the fact there are absolutely no benefits to semantic markup, or reducing overall file size because you don't have lines upon lines of tr's and td's and other garbage.
I hate to tell you, but just because you can't code a layout without tables and get it working across platforms doesn't mean tables are better. Every single bit of xhtml & css i write works across FF & Safari on mac, IE, FF, Opera, and Safari on Windows, and generally looks the same in konqueror and all the other not so primary browsers. With one additional stylesheet to strip out all the additional stuff, it'll most likely work fine on mobile devices too.
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Originally Posted by AlienQ
All browsers have CSS bugs, and IE leads the pack in this area, but that is not the end of the story. Microsoft has seen fit to engineer their browser to deliberately violate the standards in several critical ways. It might just be a mis-guided attempt to "make it simple" for newbie coders, or it might be a cynical ploy to crush the competition, but in any case it creates huge headaches for those of us who desire to employ CSS positioning on our pages.
http://www.positioniseverything.net/ie-primer.html |
CSS Positioning is easy if your not a complete tool. Boo-hoo browsers don't render css the same way, no shit, they probably never will. It's simple enough to get around any of these types of problems and even using work-arounds better then a table based layout.
Using browser rendering inconsistencies to justify your lack of xhtml / css skills is a cop out, and a weak one at that.
I don't even know why i responded to such retarded fucking shit, i'm not even a designer but something this stupid from someone that claims to be deserved to be called out and responded too.