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Old 08-01-2008, 07:06 PM  
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I am not going to bother quoting all of the serious misconceptions of a union. The biggest one is the Union lobbying for something that an individual member in the union may not approve of. The fact is a Union follows its majority of members wishes and of course what is good for the Union should be good for it's members. Still that individual member can vote how ever the hell he wants. He is not going to catch anymore shit from me than anyone else that voted for bush as example. And yes I have Union Brothers that voted for him for fear of gun control. It was their choice.

Next is crying about Unions don't help anyone that does not pay. Remove webmaster from this right away but almost every job around and most employees in America have benefited from Unions. You can name almost any trade and Unions have helped non union as well as union. Non union people wouldn't make what they make now is not for the unions. I know, heard it before how Unions are not needed anymore. What bullshit, Unions wont be needed anymore when there is no more greed, no more workers being killed on the job and employers not fucking their employees at every turn.

Have Unions ever been corrupt, sure some have but I dont think you can name any branch of government or any industry that when tempted by large sums of money corruption has not taken place. They are far from all being corrupt or about fucking a company. They are about getting fair wages for the workers, some of which happen to be very skilled. Some trade unions handle training some of the highest skilled people around.

True, I don't know that a Union could train a greeter better than walmart but they could make sure the person actually can pay their bills.

I was asked once by a Hospital administrator why our local union was so pissed at his hospital and I explained that they used non union labor for their projects. The bids by the way historically come in just under Union companies. He said the non union companies had the lowest bid, we should lower our labor rates so our employers could win the bids. I pointed out, the union companies have insurance for the workers, we pay our medical bills, the non union companies employees have no insurance and they don't pay theirs. So let's be honest, which bid is really cheaper? The hospital losses our busienss to one that uses union labor and they also get to make other people pay for the non union employees medical care plus they got substandard workmanship. Cool aint it!

So I say think about it when you are at the hospital next time and being prepped for surgery. Not like worrying about having a good surgeon is not enough, now you can worry what if the electricians were not ever really trained, and didn't have a license that hooked up all that stuff that will keep you alive. When you get the bill you can wonder how much that bill would be lower if not for all those low lifes that dont have health insurance and cant pay their bills. Hell they should have better jobs.... right?

Not all non union companies are shit, not all, dont really train their people, not all cut every corner they can, not all do substandard work.
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